Its been a while since i wrote something here, but this particular item on hindustan times newspaper was too good an opportunity to pass up on. The cat is finally out of the bag!! Six years after i joined that place, i can now say to a common man that dce sucks and not have those kind of looks from him which are usually given by a normal man to a mad man. The article was well and truly short and does not fully justify the state of affairs at dce. Let me just add on to the content and mention things hindustan times forgot to mention..
1. The syllybus hasnt been revised for 16 years and not ten as claimed by the newspaper. 10 was in my days. Its 16 now. Last syllabus revision came in the 1992. this of course excludes those deptts that were set up after this year
2. Results aside, the convocation is held two years after a particular year graduates. My 2006 batch had its convocation in 2008 and on the banners and degrees it was shamelessly splashed convocation 2007 held in 2008. In what convoluted universe does this make any sense?? Honourable chief minister of delhi was present on the occasion which makes the matters worse
3. water tank: The one water which does work is bee infested. There used to be a hornet nest behind it and till i graduated no effort was ever made to clear it up. There used to be a talk of putting up a RO(reverse Osmosis) tower inside dce at my time. IT is very required as water at dce is high in flourine content and drinking it for four years is inviting a dangerous condition called fluorosis. It never materialized.
4. computer center is defunct and grossly inadequate.
5. the 20 faculty members that professor bhattacharya is talking about have been coming since my first year. trust me, they havent come and they arent gonna come
6.Somebody should have fed the reporter the food at the mess. That warranted a sperate article altogether
7. However all said and done, i dont agree with the students if they say they havent been introduced autocad or any other advanced software. Since it is not syllabus which they can procure the copy of before they join, it is then left to them to this stuff on their own
8. DCE was barely able to handle 500 students in our time. You keep on swelling the number of seats and the situation is going to worsen.
All said and done, the rot runs deeper than the article says. So take stalk before you decide on dce as your career option. The thing with DCE is that it is no better than a private college.following are why DCE is still preferred by many:
1 The fact that there are almost no classes held in dce means ample opportunity for people to prepare for MBA/MS/PhD/IAS. People do a lot of internships outside college to learn what is not taught inside college. People join MBA coaching classes as early as second/ third year and spend all their time preparing for IIM which is good which in turn means that a lot of people at DCE end up getting into IIMs eventually. Also there exist some opportunity within campus to do some research projects and if not within campus, permanent faculty is generous enough to help you get an internship outside campus. That helps with your MS/ PhD aspirations
2 DCE still has some brand name because of it alma mater . At all functions/special occations all the principals past present and future have had and will mention shri vinod dham, i would like to ask them what happens to the other 23,999 (B.E. program only) people approximately that have graduated out of dce till date?? they dont care and they dont know for most part. Till recently administration was in zero contact with the alma mater of the college. Of late some attempt has been made to tap them which has resulted in improvement in the placement scenarios. If these attempts continue to be made atleast people wont be jobless post a degree from DCE.
3. Some things in life circumstances teach you. Something positive you can learn from dce is how to make maximum out of minimum at your disposal. four years in dce teach you that. That and team spirit friendship and other notions that are totallly unrelated to the college and its curriculum.
That about sums up what you can learn from DCE. I remember doing my Bipolar MOS lab on a c computer software as BiMOS ICs were very expensive we were told and students burn them. Research yielded that for most experiments we did it costs rs 175-800 per IC and they are pretty robust and unless you want to burn them, they dont. With this thought i believe i have berated my alma mater enough. This and the hindustan times article shown here http://justbeingmyselfmyway.blogspot.com/2008/05/delhi-college-of-disarray.html
about sum up my feelings........
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Wit all due respect, its sad to see a DCE alumnus have such feelings about his alma mater.
Although its YOUR blog and you have every right to post what you wish to, in my humble opinion its a rather irresponsible way of communicating to the outside world YOUR feelings about YOUR college.
hey
I thank you for your time for going through my blog and this article in particular. What i write here is something i well and truly believe in. If you are at DCE, you would know the state of affairs. If you arent there is no point. But the fact is responsible or irresponsible, there is no other way of putting it. I dnt say that i am ashamed of being a dceite. Its a leagacy of pride that DCE bestows upon its alma mater but there is nothing wrong in calling a spade a spade.
I'm studying at DCE currently. I'm well apprised of the state of affairs here. And believe me, I'm not proud of them either!
True, its not wrong to call a spade a spade, but such issues are there with each and every institution, more so with government ones.
Anyway, slowly but steadily, things ARE changing for the better! :)
good to know that!! maybe next time when i come back and see change in the state of affairs i will change my viewpoint
If you meet a stranger, tell him that you come from a rotten place and how bad the situation was there, it highly unlikely that he/she would consider you a miracle. It is more likely that you will be termed "a cynic"
where have i asserted that i am a miracle? I am just a flawed product of a flawed system. People think of success as a cloak that hides their flaws. I work with flaws as if they are my medallions which i will get when i get rid of them.
DCE today is still a downright stigma on its glorious past of which i have virtually no doubt. It is upto everybody to either believe me despite what you term as my success or put themselves or their children through same experience that i went through and either conclude the same or hide it under 5 LPA placement that you get there on an average just because of its alma mater and proximity to national capital region
The irony of the situation is that if a person who truly lost his everything there comes upto a forum and says that DCE sucks you will call him a loser. If I, AICTE, directorate of education say something you will call us a bunch of cynics. The question is, what will it take for somebody to realize that the dinosaur is nothing but a frail raggedy black sheep
Sending a message out to the world is different from getting some one to look at the problem.
The entire India bureaucracy is suffering from similar problems, everyone is aware. Most people are in acquiesance
I will not care as long as new incoming students arent made rosy claims about the standng of the institution. If the principal/ director of this institution stop making fraudlent claims such as center of research and excellence and world class faculty and laboratory then i wouldnt care.
At this rate the best students of delhi and NCR region are wasting their time effort and frankly even tuition money here. There are better institution of engineering education in india which are equally recognized. people think why to go to suratkal or trichy if you have a world class institution in your backyard?? The reality is that this place is worst than some of worst NITs
There is information asymetry when conditions in trichy and surathkal are unknown.
I agree I dont know them first hand but I know people who have studied there and they are first to accept the shortcomings of their alma mater. But for most part, us DCEites have the tendency to keep things under wraps
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