Reputed US universities visiting DTU and their rank for engineering programs
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/eng/search
Clark University 107
University of Mississippi RNP
University of South Carolina 102
Ohio University, 121
Auburn University, 70
Western Michigan University, RNP
University of Alabama at Birmingham, 137
Thomas College, this name does not exist in USnews database
Rutgers University, 51
Long Island University this name does not exist in USnews database
I urge students to take whatever these universities say/said with a pinch of salt..
thanks
prashant
Sunday, October 10, 2010
Wednesday, October 6, 2010
Sweden
ah well..
peace needs to return to this blogspot.. atleast till I get back to USA.. To the readers who follow me, the update is that I am in goteborg sweden.. I am here on a scholarship from government of Sweden and goal of the project at chalmers university of technology is to study the dynamics of VCSELs(sorry thats about what I can write here).. VCSELs are extremely small lasers which provide the advantage of photonic integration, low per unit production cost and easy of testing due to light coming out vertically from them.. Their applications range from local access communication networks to Photonic Intergrated Circuits and gas and pressure Sensors. As I venture from the world of Fiber optics to the world of semiconductors, this experience is very crucial for me to understand this new emerging class of semiconductor devices.
enough of the boring work details.. lets talk about Sweden.. Sweden is a beautiful country.. Not just the locales and the architecture and the paved streets but most people I have met with have beautiful hearts.. Be it my swedish advisor who came to pick me up at the airport, to my group members who are extremely supportive and forthcoming with help and guidance to small community of Indian Students here who are more warm and welcoming than anyone I have met at rochester NY... Its true as the number of Indians increase beyond a critical number, they tend to form clusters and become cold and distant!! you see this everywhere in America but not so in Sweden..
peace needs to return to this blogspot.. atleast till I get back to USA.. To the readers who follow me, the update is that I am in goteborg sweden.. I am here on a scholarship from government of Sweden and goal of the project at chalmers university of technology is to study the dynamics of VCSELs(sorry thats about what I can write here).. VCSELs are extremely small lasers which provide the advantage of photonic integration, low per unit production cost and easy of testing due to light coming out vertically from them.. Their applications range from local access communication networks to Photonic Intergrated Circuits and gas and pressure Sensors. As I venture from the world of Fiber optics to the world of semiconductors, this experience is very crucial for me to understand this new emerging class of semiconductor devices.
enough of the boring work details.. lets talk about Sweden.. Sweden is a beautiful country.. Not just the locales and the architecture and the paved streets but most people I have met with have beautiful hearts.. Be it my swedish advisor who came to pick me up at the airport, to my group members who are extremely supportive and forthcoming with help and guidance to small community of Indian Students here who are more warm and welcoming than anyone I have met at rochester NY... Its true as the number of Indians increase beyond a critical number, they tend to form clusters and become cold and distant!! you see this everywhere in America but not so in Sweden..
Monday, October 4, 2010
alpviram
My dear friend
I could probably write another long post, especially since I am on a break today due to downtime at my lab but I see that will not solve anything.. the point is we are two different sides of the same coin
You feel proud about a TOY SHERA whereas I see it as a minor achievement being extolled beyond reason. That toy incorporates well known tech involving motion sensors, possibly pressure sensors, actuators, sound and LED circuits which are available off the shelf.. A real innovation would have been something which moves and has 3-D freedom of motion. And yes, those students made it but soo much hooplah about something so minor is actually the fundamental flaw we face as a nation. this is exactly why I got involved in DTU debate. It is actually a nothing, a void made to look like something big that an act needs to brought up in the parliament to enact it..
like i said before, I raised my point, I was abused, then I abused then you abused then I abused and finally this cycle seems to be ending.. so I dont need a new post anymore.. this matter is under judicial review and I am sure judiciary will do the right thing (whatever it is). That is the last bastion against corruption that still stands in our country..
small pointers :
1.)
People like pranav mistry, Ashutosh Saxena have had the answers since they were kids.. they have been repeatedly dismissed by grey haired individuals like hon VC ( and head honchos at CSIR http://www.nature.com/news/2009/091109/full/462152a.html) who have the notion that wisdom is a monotonically increasing function of age. People like mistry and saxena have been leaving india since 1950 and will continue to do so. India as a nation has been extolling mediocrity since 1948 and will continue to do so. Oh look we tried and tried hard.. women are being raped in delhi, kids are being targeted by pedophiles, farmers are committing suicide, sex ratios are going haywire, female infanticide is on the rise, we are diluting the brand value of our premier education institutions such as IITs and DCE and then we spend close to 1000 crore on CWG out of which more than half is unaccounted for and we as a nation are supposed to feel proud of it?? or for DTU or for the multiple IITs we know have?? really dude?? I cannot feel proud and never will period!!
I am not even a fraction of their pedigree.. I am more of an executer than a thinker.. to improve my thinking faculties is the very reason I started my PhD.. I am getting there.. trust me.. Its my life goal and I plan to achieve it
2. ) My karma is defined by me and I take responsibility for it. However HOn. V.C. has to reply for his 'KARMA' sooner than me.. I wish him all the best
3. ) In the near future, I will write him an open letter, detailing what all happened, my reservation against DTU and his actions..
4.) I hope your confidence translates into something useful.. Spirit of entrepreneurship has been around in DCE forever. I hope it fosters into something useful. I however KNOW that it will not
5.) The US university fair that you feel happy about, kindly check the credentials of those universities.. These are exactly those universities which consultants in INDIA use to get fake I20s for kids. Kids going to these schools end up in gas stations or driving cabs and get shot.. depressing but true. I would not take what they say on face value and neither should anybody.. this is why I paste this on your more popular blog as well.. I would acknowledge such an effort if virginia tech, virginia commonwealth universoity, arizona state university, university of florida gainsville, florida state university at Tallahassee, university of arizona, boston university, SUNY Albany, SUNY stony brook, university of delaware etc come to the campus.. these arent the top ten.. these are the univs average to bright kids go to here in America. These are the universities which acknowledge IITs through their alumni network.. bring them to DTU campus and let their admission Councillors counsel the students.. At that point, I will gladly retire..
6.) your blog now comes at number 10 while searching for my name.. It will go down.. but it is something I am proud of and always will be
7.) I will be back in 6-8 months from now.. 2-3 more good papers later and we will compare and contrast what DTU has achieved vs what I have achieved.. All my achievements (my papers have author bio and In all my bios I am a student of DCE and forever will be) are dedicated to DCE and forever will be.. Like always I denounce this conversion in strictest of terms
8.) https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0BzST6yNDn-hkZTUzODlmZDItNTI3My00MjI2LTkzMWYtY2ExODRhNjQ5YmU3&hl=en&pli=1
read this report if you have time.. points out a lot of things that I am trying to say.. the jist is, new blood isnt allowed to 'fix' the system.. you challenged it, you get screwed.. I dont care if I am screwed and bad blogs are written about me.. its only a proof that I am on the path of being a good scientist!!
9.)
this is whr you keep on contradicting your own self.. you say you are ex-DCE but at the same time you say that DTU was established in 2010.. DCE has been around since 1942 and your pioneer visionary has been around since 1990. All I say is has DCe achieved even 25% of what cornell has??
10.)
11.)
Here too, I have been misquoted.. I have never cast an aspersion on the efforts of students who build these cars. Its a very noble effort but what is the intention behind this effort?? if we go back in the history, the concept of making cars was pioneered by the defianz racing team.. students picked up on the idea of the glamor and press coverage associated with this as well as being on the good books of the then principal and the now Hon. VC and then every year, the students who couldnt make it to one team start their own.. this is clearly a bad precedent the moral responsibility of which I put squarely on Hon. VC Sh. P. B . Sharma.. these students might do well at these universities but the fundamental spirit behind learning and innovation is not being fostered in them for which the above mentioned person is responsible... I ask of these students at DCE/DTU to make a project which doesnt take them to a competition. Lets say a robotic arm which is capable of autonomously opening the lid of a jar. Now that is a real project.. Its still a matter of research for various applications.. there are no student competitions for it.. you dont get the circuit of the flight controller when you google how to build an unmanned aerial vehicle and you dont get any prize for making it work.. just the pure satisfaction of learning.. the students who make this are the students which WILL SURELY do REALLY WELL at MIT/HARVARD etc and can pretty much better a PRASHANT BAVEJA without breaking a sweat!! thats how much I believe in students of DCE provided their hearts are in the right place.. right now they are not!!! another side question// these students who made this shera for political mileage with delhi CM.. what if they were instead encourage to make this arm an automated assembly line for some sort.. from what i understand they are startup and need some sort of start up capital or project.. surely something like this would give them that opportunity!! alas they are wasted in making a toy....
A short Note on biodiesel
I refer you to the defination of the word used by your HON VC many times
so an innovation is not necessarily a new discovery.. It could also be a new application of existing state of the art.. while you say this
I say this.. Hon Vc has been taking credit for this project since the very begining. he drive the so called biodiesel car in the campus. flaunts it as a green initiative and then when things come on the chopping block, he puts the blame back on the researchers?? come on.. biodiesel being produced on campus in my mind is still a BRILLIANT idea.. An INNOVATIVE policy of Campus Carbon Credits could be implemented wherein students who park their car on campus given a 10% tuition credit if their car is diesel and they buy atleast 100 liters of locally produced biodiesel at Rs 50 per liter per year.. they can be charged for it upfront and given a credit card for swiping at a local refilling station.. those who continue to use petrol can be charged 10% Environmental Surcharge and same can be extended to faculty as well.. an enhancement in pay vs a reduction in pay model which is workable with MUTUAL discussion and not Autocratically as he usually goes about doing his business.. I think biodiesel is a wonderful idea but being deserted as a adopted child now that more colorful projects are being proposed.. I have seen him wear his tardy blue suit every time a project is announced.. he smiles in front of camera.. makes big speeches with hollow promises.. does he care to follow up?? if he takes credit in front of the media then blame is on him.. how can you say he has done all that he can wherein with his 40+ years of experience this simple idea is something he couldn't come up with.. And FYI this is not my idea..
If he reads this tomorrow, and decides to implement this, I am sure he will claim this idea as his own.. this is the definition of academic fraud which he has been perpetrating for last so many years. So that is why i dont blame the researchers who are making biodiesel.. the blame lies with the policymaker who without knowing what to do with it calls it innovative in the press
I could probably write another long post, especially since I am on a break today due to downtime at my lab but I see that will not solve anything.. the point is we are two different sides of the same coin
You feel proud about a TOY SHERA whereas I see it as a minor achievement being extolled beyond reason. That toy incorporates well known tech involving motion sensors, possibly pressure sensors, actuators, sound and LED circuits which are available off the shelf.. A real innovation would have been something which moves and has 3-D freedom of motion. And yes, those students made it but soo much hooplah about something so minor is actually the fundamental flaw we face as a nation. this is exactly why I got involved in DTU debate. It is actually a nothing, a void made to look like something big that an act needs to brought up in the parliament to enact it..
like i said before, I raised my point, I was abused, then I abused then you abused then I abused and finally this cycle seems to be ending.. so I dont need a new post anymore.. this matter is under judicial review and I am sure judiciary will do the right thing (whatever it is). That is the last bastion against corruption that still stands in our country..
small pointers :
1.)
Took a while going through the posts unleashed by Prashant Baveja. Congratulations Prashant! You seem to have a solution for all the problems, I stand impressed.....
But how exactly do you think your suggestions are practical? Are ideas the only seed towards accomplishing something
People like pranav mistry, Ashutosh Saxena have had the answers since they were kids.. they have been repeatedly dismissed by grey haired individuals like hon VC ( and head honchos at CSIR http://www.nature.com/news/2009/091109/full/462152a.html) who have the notion that wisdom is a monotonically increasing function of age. People like mistry and saxena have been leaving india since 1950 and will continue to do so. India as a nation has been extolling mediocrity since 1948 and will continue to do so. Oh look we tried and tried hard.. women are being raped in delhi, kids are being targeted by pedophiles, farmers are committing suicide, sex ratios are going haywire, female infanticide is on the rise, we are diluting the brand value of our premier education institutions such as IITs and DCE and then we spend close to 1000 crore on CWG out of which more than half is unaccounted for and we as a nation are supposed to feel proud of it?? or for DTU or for the multiple IITs we know have?? really dude?? I cannot feel proud and never will period!!
I am not even a fraction of their pedigree.. I am more of an executer than a thinker.. to improve my thinking faculties is the very reason I started my PhD.. I am getting there.. trust me.. Its my life goal and I plan to achieve it
2. ) My karma is defined by me and I take responsibility for it. However HOn. V.C. has to reply for his 'KARMA' sooner than me.. I wish him all the best
3. ) In the near future, I will write him an open letter, detailing what all happened, my reservation against DTU and his actions..
4.) I hope your confidence translates into something useful.. Spirit of entrepreneurship has been around in DCE forever. I hope it fosters into something useful. I however KNOW that it will not
5.) The US university fair that you feel happy about, kindly check the credentials of those universities.. These are exactly those universities which consultants in INDIA use to get fake I20s for kids. Kids going to these schools end up in gas stations or driving cabs and get shot.. depressing but true. I would not take what they say on face value and neither should anybody.. this is why I paste this on your more popular blog as well.. I would acknowledge such an effort if virginia tech, virginia commonwealth universoity, arizona state university, university of florida gainsville, florida state university at Tallahassee, university of arizona, boston university, SUNY Albany, SUNY stony brook, university of delaware etc come to the campus.. these arent the top ten.. these are the univs average to bright kids go to here in America. These are the universities which acknowledge IITs through their alumni network.. bring them to DTU campus and let their admission Councillors counsel the students.. At that point, I will gladly retire..
6.) your blog now comes at number 10 while searching for my name.. It will go down.. but it is something I am proud of and always will be
7.) I will be back in 6-8 months from now.. 2-3 more good papers later and we will compare and contrast what DTU has achieved vs what I have achieved.. All my achievements (my papers have author bio and In all my bios I am a student of DCE and forever will be) are dedicated to DCE and forever will be.. Like always I denounce this conversion in strictest of terms
8.) https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0BzST6yNDn-hkZTUzODlmZDItNTI3My00MjI2LTkzMWYtY2ExODRhNjQ5YmU3&hl=en&pli=1
read this report if you have time.. points out a lot of things that I am trying to say.. the jist is, new blood isnt allowed to 'fix' the system.. you challenged it, you get screwed.. I dont care if I am screwed and bad blogs are written about me.. its only a proof that I am on the path of being a good scientist!!
9.)
Let's give ourselves some time...after all, what logic can dictate comparison of a University established in 1865 with a University established in 2010?!
this is whr you keep on contradicting your own self.. you say you are ex-DCE but at the same time you say that DTU was established in 2010.. DCE has been around since 1942 and your pioneer visionary has been around since 1990. All I say is has DCe achieved even 25% of what cornell has??
10.)
Rather than being proud of what we have achieved on our own (read: zero external funding, zero external consultancy and academicians, well you know them!),whose fault is it I ask?? When Prof Sinha joined in 1997 or many others for that matter, if they were given some sort of start-up capital, they would have achieved a lot more.. The system has failed this great institution.. This institution who has generated alumini who went on to partner philip johnson ( the father of modern architecture!! ) and even now this system which is called DTU will fail this great institution as it is not correcting the ills of the past..
11.)
Toy Cars: Thank you for appreciating the honest efforts of the students, isn't it good enough that amongst the rankings you posted on your blog, DTU is the only Asian University mentioned? At least we are doing things, and we must laud the efforts, rather than calling them toy cars.
Here too, I have been misquoted.. I have never cast an aspersion on the efforts of students who build these cars. Its a very noble effort but what is the intention behind this effort?? if we go back in the history, the concept of making cars was pioneered by the defianz racing team.. students picked up on the idea of the glamor and press coverage associated with this as well as being on the good books of the then principal and the now Hon. VC and then every year, the students who couldnt make it to one team start their own.. this is clearly a bad precedent the moral responsibility of which I put squarely on Hon. VC Sh. P. B . Sharma.. these students might do well at these universities but the fundamental spirit behind learning and innovation is not being fostered in them for which the above mentioned person is responsible... I ask of these students at DCE/DTU to make a project which doesnt take them to a competition. Lets say a robotic arm which is capable of autonomously opening the lid of a jar. Now that is a real project.. Its still a matter of research for various applications.. there are no student competitions for it.. you dont get the circuit of the flight controller when you google how to build an unmanned aerial vehicle and you dont get any prize for making it work.. just the pure satisfaction of learning.. the students who make this are the students which WILL SURELY do REALLY WELL at MIT/HARVARD etc and can pretty much better a PRASHANT BAVEJA without breaking a sweat!! thats how much I believe in students of DCE provided their hearts are in the right place.. right now they are not!!! another side question// these students who made this shera for political mileage with delhi CM.. what if they were instead encourage to make this arm an automated assembly line for some sort.. from what i understand they are startup and need some sort of start up capital or project.. surely something like this would give them that opportunity!! alas they are wasted in making a toy....
A short Note on biodiesel
I refer you to the defination of the word used by your HON VC many times
Innovation is a change in the thought process for doing something, or the useful application of new inventions or discoveries
so an innovation is not necessarily a new discovery.. It could also be a new application of existing state of the art.. while you say this
Sadly, the project is led by some very incompetent people like NK, but then it is an important research on its own in the context of India. I also understand that not much has been done to take the project forward, but this responsibility should/must lie with the lead researcher, not PBS. He provided all he could to take the project forward.
I say this.. Hon Vc has been taking credit for this project since the very begining. he drive the so called biodiesel car in the campus. flaunts it as a green initiative and then when things come on the chopping block, he puts the blame back on the researchers?? come on.. biodiesel being produced on campus in my mind is still a BRILLIANT idea.. An INNOVATIVE policy of Campus Carbon Credits could be implemented wherein students who park their car on campus given a 10% tuition credit if their car is diesel and they buy atleast 100 liters of locally produced biodiesel at Rs 50 per liter per year.. they can be charged for it upfront and given a credit card for swiping at a local refilling station.. those who continue to use petrol can be charged 10% Environmental Surcharge and same can be extended to faculty as well.. an enhancement in pay vs a reduction in pay model which is workable with MUTUAL discussion and not Autocratically as he usually goes about doing his business.. I think biodiesel is a wonderful idea but being deserted as a adopted child now that more colorful projects are being proposed.. I have seen him wear his tardy blue suit every time a project is announced.. he smiles in front of camera.. makes big speeches with hollow promises.. does he care to follow up?? if he takes credit in front of the media then blame is on him.. how can you say he has done all that he can wherein with his 40+ years of experience this simple idea is something he couldn't come up with.. And FYI this is not my idea..
If he reads this tomorrow, and decides to implement this, I am sure he will claim this idea as his own.. this is the definition of academic fraud which he has been perpetrating for last so many years. So that is why i dont blame the researchers who are making biodiesel.. the blame lies with the policymaker who without knowing what to do with it calls it innovative in the press
Wednesday, September 29, 2010
no abuses were used so i reciprocate accordingly
For a while, we deviated from our purpose of this blog, primary distraction being Mr Prashant Bhagat. There shall be one more post devoted to that loser, he has already said all he had. We really hope he slept well after his trilogy (lmao)....After the next post, you will be ignored Mr Prashant Bhagat.
hello losers.. this is the first time, you wrote a post without being abusive.. I am sure your warlord is working round the clock the work up some strategy to answer my questions.. allow me to put some more..i lied.. I have more to say.. a lot more
and FYI i know he reads all of mine and your posts.. he can go ahead and claim all that he wants to.. the very facts of his claims are flawed and falsified..
For a while, we deviated from our purpose of this blog, primary distraction being Mr Prashant Bhagat. There shall be one more post devoted to that loser, he has already said all he had. We really hope he slept well after his trilogy (lmao)....After the next post, you will be ignored Mr Prashant Bhagat.
oh you are better off ignoring me... i guess that is what your LOSER employee has told you.. ignore him.. answering him takes a lot of effort.. putting out real facts and figures as opposed to just plain propaganda.. dude I dont need your attention.. You dont have to reply to me, its fine but I will put here, in reply to every false propaganda you make the right questions people should ask and the answers that they deserve!! thats my purpose
It was never an Anti-DTU campaign, it was an Anti-PBS campaign all along, hatched by masters in our own fold and supported by elements in Delhi University.
wait so how are PBS and DTU different?? DTU is a morally corrupt illicit child of PBS.. so if you attack DTU you consequently attack PBS.. how can you decouple the two??
(iii) Solar Geysers in hostel blocks are a part of investment on use of renewable energy and the same are for use of students during winters. A technological university boosting its commitment to renewable energy research cannot ignore renewable energy utilisation for applications like solar water geysers, solar lights etc. In fact, the commitment of DTU is to establish 1 MW Solar Power in the campus.
so mr bussiness trip (i know who u are.. stop pretending to be some hotshot.. my last questions did create some flutters in the admin.. these ones will blow everyones mind off)
solar geysers... someone like you with no background of science or people in media who pretty much believe any bullshit thrown their way do you even know how to harvest solar energy?? allow me.. most solar geysers are made of solar panels which are only 20% efficient and are only useful in areas with round the clock sunlight.. I places like delhi which have harsh and long winters, you need solar concentrators which are upto 65% efficient. and you install them on rooftops to make them most useful. Further renewable energy is a composite initiative.. you cant build a solar infrastructure and claim to be green.. in the event of a downturn of solar sources, you need to have wind infrastructure, geothermal and finally earth air tunnels to cool large rooms.. this is a truly green campus.. again PB sharma showing his parlor tricks and creating media hype.. all this money which comes from taxpayers will be used for buying infrastructure which is mostly useless. and people will get kickbacks!!
We really hope someone from his current or past Administration takes note of the happenings and make him succeed on the Self-Destruct path he has chosen.
fourth time please do.. anyone.. your maalik any of his lapdogs.. you??
i still have many aces up my sleeves... things that i saw and heard with my own eyes and ears and from what I see, DTU is still no different and never will be..
For a while, we deviated from our purpose of this blog, primary distraction being Mr Prashant Bhagat.
yes please get back to your primary purpose.. spreading lies and misinformation, threats and abuses.. you have a capable foe in me now.. lets see who has stronger resolve...
FYI
in less than a wekk, you go from here
with this one which was just published today
(Though I seriously believe you got yourself involved in this because you are a Schmuck!, हिंदी में कहें तो: "बेगानी शादी में, अब्दुल्लाह दीवाना!").
to here
Still Mr. Prashant Bhagat, you shall be answered.
and here
For a while, we deviated from our purpose of this blog, primary distraction being Mr Prashant Bhagat. There shall be one more post devoted to that loser, he has already said all he had. We really hope he slept well after his trilogy (lmao)....After the next post, you will be ignored Mr Prashant Bhagat.
perhaps your white haired owner/goon called you up or logged in on your behalf to again and use his cheap parlour tricks for misdirection and mudslinging?? both happen to be his specialties and he now has an able student i see
Sunday, September 26, 2010
liar liar pants on fire.. out with the maggots now comes the leader
ah back in the days of my youth, i was an amateur poet myself.. so reminiscing the days bygone with nostalgia!!
I have done enough maggot bashing. I have shown that their propensity to lie is far worse than a normal human beings!! this probably could very well be my last post on this topic unless maggots decide to come out from under the scrotal sack of their ring leader again and spread lies and misinformation or threaten me.. i also take this opportunity to point out to my readers and concerned parents of students who are currently in DTU that please do not believe in any propaganda.. i do not know for sure what is happening inside DCE.. the maggots or anyone else running false propaganda on the behalf of the morally corrupt VC has vested interest in claiming that their clamis are true and mine or anyone elses are false.. I however can point you to ask right questions which should be asked by you and every other student of DCE/DTU for the claims that were made are not being fulfilled..
oh wait apologies, I cant bash the ringleader without bashing the maggots so I have to quote from their website again.. please bear with me..
and this one
and this is a special one from your ring leader
so while you want to hire a PR department to claim that DTU wants to act like a world class university but when the very essence of it being a world class university is question you claim that oh no its just a vision we still have a long distance to go.. this man had put up boards in 2004 that DCE will roll out lots of innovations, break throughs and what not... this is 2010 going on 2011.. what has DCE/DTU achieved so far?? a simple hostipal on campus perhaps with some doctors and medical services providers to deal with the emergencies that happened on campus recently is it too much to ask??
he says his focus is on world class infrastructure.. when you kids were in your jammies we used to have this wifi network which was built from the hostel funds. the purpose of that network was to provide wifi access to hostels.. of course the people who were awarded the contract for wifi had to give serious kick backs and then their payments were never made, they backed out of maintaining the network and when he went to bhopal the acting principal had the entire wifi network dismantled.. even the basic community colleges which were set up less than 10 years ago have wifi.. now what do u have to say?? every year students pay upward of thousand rupees as internet charges and still there is no wifi internet on campus?? surely this takes less than a year to set up..
who am i misquoting again?? he talks of professional morality.. where was his professional morality when kids were beaten on campus?? when lathi charge was done on students.. there is a saying 'with great power comes great responsibility' this man who has assumed the power of a VC exhibits no commensurate responsibility whatsoever
lets examine a true world class insitution or the vision of DCE as I see it which is very achievable weather it is DCE or DTU if the person at helm does his job properly weather he is a principal or a VC
A library and a computer center open 24 hours, an all night cafeteria which is accessible to both male and female students.. buses running from TYPE V and SNH which ferry female students to library and computer center where they too like their male counterparts and contribute to the innovations at DCE.. these buses can be powered by biodiesel made by using the recycled frying oil generated at the local cafeteria thereby reducing the carbon footprint of the campus..
the maggots say this to enhancing the timings of the girls hostel that it is only demanded so that male and female students can have sex on campus.. while i dont see any problem with that as long as the sex is consensual (of course the maggots could have turned gay by licking the balls of their ringleader but thats besides the point) do you realize the psychological impact of being caged inside their quarters for close to 12 hours a day?? no wonder the only suicide in DCE in my recent memory happened to be that of a female student...she was suffering from personal problems and the oppressive hostel atmosphere obviously did not help her cause..
continued with a vision.. every new research faculty being hired should be paid upto 50 lakh rupees based on their qualification and their achievements and should be hired on probation for three years if their experience is less than 10 years.. the money they are given, they should be given freedom to start a lab in their area of expertise and also bring in money from government and private grants.. a small percentage of this money lets say 30 should be given back to the university as a overhead so that the university coffers do not run dry and soon it becomes self sustainable.. the university should have an IP cell where all the intellectual property being generated by the university is patented and those patents are licensed to the industry for product development.. this IP office can also interface with a WELL planned technology incubator housing innovators and technology entrepreneurs who can convert this technology into viable products...
this is my vision.. so far what has PB sharma achieved?? he backs toy cars which i still maintain are difficult projects but they ARE NOT innovations.. he can go to the media and claim our students beat MIT cornell harvard and what not and look my vision is working please take a look at what MIT and harvard and cornell achieve routinely..
MIT
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11374632
harvard
http://www.seas.harvard.edu/news-events/press-releases/tiny-flying-bots-benefit-from-car-like-drivetrain
cornell
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Sept10/PersonalRobotics.html
i specifically chose examples from the field of robotics to underscore the point that these are real innovations toycars are not.. if our students do those projects and go abroad to these competitions, it doesnt make them or DCE/DTU better than student of MIT or Cornell or Harvard neither does it make the curriculum at DTU better than these esteemed institutions
claims such as these make me sad.. they are false claims made to the media which parents see and send their children to DTU thinking that our kids will be better than those in MIT, cornell and harvard...
this happens to be the biggest lie.. now the maggots are gonna come back and say that atleast he is doing something taking the initiative walking the talk blah blah but please note he was doing the same thing as the principle of DCE.. I am not against conversion of DCE to DTU. I am merely here to point out that this conversion hasnt changed anything at DCE period!!
now back to the maggot land be right back!!
maggots giving a lesson in history .. allow me to do so as well.. all the achievements of PBS that you point out were his JOB. did he do it for free?? hell no!! he was piard, he had bunglows, his car with a driver and his personal servants!! and to say that anything good that ever happened to DCE happened because of him is a false claim of epic proportions!!!
first up the reason why no progress ever hapened at DCE while he was gone is entirely wrong.. he is politically so well connected that he ensured that while he was gone no permanent principal was appointed in his place so that he can come back and claim his place.. he stirs up trouble in bhopal comes to DCE stirs up trobles here goes back to bhopal.. what a morally upright person.. so from where I see it, for the last 20 years, DCE has seen only 13 years of development because of him
temporary or acting principles have the problem that if they take a tough decision on anything and if it comes under scrutiny then their careers are spoiled.. Prof D goldar did a lot of infrastructural work in the period from 2003 to 2004 while PBS wasnt around...also temporary principles are only appointed for a year or less so it gives them little time to do much or anything at all
I ask this to the maggots and their ringleader.. of the 20 years that he has been at the helm of affairs how many PhDs were awarded by DCE which were supervised by DCE faculty?? how many innovations have come out of DCE campus?? granted MIT cornell and harvard have over 100 years on us but are we even at 20% of these great institutions?? please dont say yes i would die laughing
the maggots running this blogspot claim that there is one man in DCE whom they greatly respect for his credentials.. that man now stands against the VC he was appointed as a faculty during this period and he started setting up his labs and graduating his students.. so you cannot claim that no great development took place in this time.. you DO NOT know your history.,... you go to the office of PB sharma where he seats you in front of himself and gives you long pravachan about how great he is and what all he has done for DCE and then you come out all impressed and start barking at his detractors.. I ask you to know your history first!!
this is another blatant lie.. just becuase you call it an undeniable truth, doesnt make it one!! i do not know about all the student chapters but in the year of 2004, I conceptualized and started the SPIE DCE chapter which happened to be the first SPIE chapter in india.. I collected 30 students and their fees, I deposited all of them through a money order, I organized lectures. If anything, it oo had to make multiple rounds to get the chapter approved, permissions to open bank accounts blah blah!! PB sharma never give one single rupee to SPIE DCE chapter as long as I was there.. I started SPIE DCE chapter for when I started working with Prof. R.K. Sinha, I knew that even If i or any other undergraduate gets a conference paper, we wont get funding to present it.. A year later, I got my paper and SPIE dce chapter gave me the money I presented my paper came back applied to colleges got through rochester..PB sharma has therefore NO ROLE WHATSOEVER in anything I have achieved.. In fact in no meaningful achievement on campus PB sharma has any role.. he just likes to take credit..
The validity of HIS flagship project, the biodiesel is known by many!!Ever since then each year atleast one student(chapter member) gets money from SPIE to go to conferences and also atleast one student associated with an SPIE chapter each year has gotten into reputed masters and PhD program. this is NOT PB sharmas achievement.. this is mine and my advisors Dr. RK sinhas who WAS NOT hired by PB sharma!! so please you know ur history.. Fuckers I am a part of it!! I made it!!
I am mostly done with this.. u idiots claim a lot of bullshit.. dogs bark on a street you either shoot them or you ignore them.. you say this
arre yaroon itna kiya aane waali nasl ke liye aur tumne begana kar diya?? every year I get multiple requests from PhD and undergraduate students for research papers, guidance on internships and admission abroad, codes for solving complex equations which actually happens to be my groups proprietary information.. should i turn those down if i am a begana as u put it?? of course it wouldnt matter to you maggots who do no real research.. your doctorate lies in abusing alumni.. dont worry I continue to help everyone.. you on the other hand are free to contact your useless seniors to get all the dirt you can on me to discredit me but dont answer the questions i raise for of course its beyond your paygrade.. your mental faculty is limited to being brainwashed and bark
you misquote me, abuse me, threaten me for what end?? why do you want me to shut up?? there are other alumini out there who feel the same way!!
http://www.praja.in/en/blog/shekhar-mittal/2010/03/15/delhi-college-engineering-delhi-technical-university-controversy-ex-s
I am sure you would abuse them too if you know who they are!! I am a person who worked closely with the system.. I dont have have all the answers.. My claims are the following
1.) conversion from DCE to DTU has achieved nothing.. If anything we have lost the backing of DU which has put us in a tight corner (refer to my previous posts about DU)
2.) P B sharma is not a saint as is claimed by the maggots.. he is a male chauvinistic pig head with a huge ego and this has put futures of thousands of students in jeopardy!!
3.) maggots arent repository of the thruth.. they are just maggots. they recite verbatim what their ring leader tells them to recite like a fucking mantra or shloka.. they bark at any and everyone who dissents with the now VC without putting the facts on the table
4.) I as an alumini like many others have a stake in the future of my alma matter.. If i feel the future of my alma matter is at stake,I will lash out.. this is not a begane ki shaadi.. this is my DCE ki barbaadi that has already happened
5. ) DCE has now been converted to DTU.. I doubt much can be done about it.. but if all the current stake holders like the alumini students and parents ask the right questions remedial measures might be taken.. those who dissent should not be castigated!! this is a democracy!!
6.) I have been threatened that I will not get a post doc position just becuase I choose to voice my opinion.. i openly challange PB sharma right here right now for the third time sir right a letter to whomever you deem fit!! If I cant get a Post doc just for showing dissent to your face then I am better off not working in this field.. research is a mettle of scientists and educators.. noble intellectuals whose job is to show dissent to think.. if someone penalizes me to think then I will gladly leave this line of work and go join my fathers business and make money.. this is how confident I am!! you on the other hand know that if you write a letter and nothing happens to me, it will be big humiliation to you!! IIT professors have tried writing letters to my university against me for challenging their conduct of asking 20 k rupees to students for internship citing that this is an IIT rule and nothing came of it!! this is how confident I am!! are you??
with this i sign off for now!!
maggots i hope my last three posts has enough content.. when you search for PB sharma, this blogspot also shows up on google along with countless other criticing him.. your one dumb link amongst my achievements doesnt bother me one bit!! you know know how far I am willing to go on this mission.. this could very well be my last post if you remove al the abusive and threatening content against me and anyone else from your blopspot and present your points in a valid manner.. if you continue to attack people and abuse them I will fight back and I will fight back hard
asta lavista maggots!!
p.s. you maggots asked for a lesson in entrepreneurship
I am sorry, It could not be accommodated in the main text.. while i am not your fathers servant and if I give examples from the west, you will wet your pants, allow me to direct you to the website of IIT B incubator
http://www.sineiitb.org/facilities.html and their governing board http://www.sineiitb.org/board.html
this has been around only close to ten years but thats beside the point. read the facilities page.. look at what all they provide.. experienced Entrepreneurs, technologists and industrialists as well as startup fundings.. the fake incubator at dce has students running up and down and secretarial support. laughable at best.. dude if the foundation is fucked up, the building is doomed to fall and it doesnt take an oracle to predict this!!
I have done enough maggot bashing. I have shown that their propensity to lie is far worse than a normal human beings!! this probably could very well be my last post on this topic unless maggots decide to come out from under the scrotal sack of their ring leader again and spread lies and misinformation or threaten me.. i also take this opportunity to point out to my readers and concerned parents of students who are currently in DTU that please do not believe in any propaganda.. i do not know for sure what is happening inside DCE.. the maggots or anyone else running false propaganda on the behalf of the morally corrupt VC has vested interest in claiming that their clamis are true and mine or anyone elses are false.. I however can point you to ask right questions which should be asked by you and every other student of DCE/DTU for the claims that were made are not being fulfilled..
oh wait apologies, I cant bash the ringleader without bashing the maggots so I have to quote from their website again.. please bear with me..
16) He has appointed a Public Relations officer in the university. Its not a corporate house, its a university!!
All world class universities operate partially as a Corporate House...Have you ever seen one!? Check out any Top 10 University, they even have a Marketing Department... oh no, they want you to go back to a medieval university like DU right? Duh!
and this one
And that is where the term, often coined by PBS Sir, and misquoted by you comes in - World Class University. It is a vision, not yet a reality. It is an initiative, not yet a result. But anything world class, is impossible without its people.
and this is a special one from your ring leader
The focus of DTU is on - Panchsheel of Technical education in 21st Century
o Troika of Education, Research and Innovations imbibing scientific values and professional morality
o World Quality Curriculum design and delivery; World Class Knowledge Infrastructure
o Seamless integration of Science and Engineering
o Research driven, industry relevant Innovations
o Networking with selected World Class Universities
so while you want to hire a PR department to claim that DTU wants to act like a world class university but when the very essence of it being a world class university is question you claim that oh no its just a vision we still have a long distance to go.. this man had put up boards in 2004 that DCE will roll out lots of innovations, break throughs and what not... this is 2010 going on 2011.. what has DCE/DTU achieved so far?? a simple hostipal on campus perhaps with some doctors and medical services providers to deal with the emergencies that happened on campus recently is it too much to ask??
he says his focus is on world class infrastructure.. when you kids were in your jammies we used to have this wifi network which was built from the hostel funds. the purpose of that network was to provide wifi access to hostels.. of course the people who were awarded the contract for wifi had to give serious kick backs and then their payments were never made, they backed out of maintaining the network and when he went to bhopal the acting principal had the entire wifi network dismantled.. even the basic community colleges which were set up less than 10 years ago have wifi.. now what do u have to say?? every year students pay upward of thousand rupees as internet charges and still there is no wifi internet on campus?? surely this takes less than a year to set up..
who am i misquoting again?? he talks of professional morality.. where was his professional morality when kids were beaten on campus?? when lathi charge was done on students.. there is a saying 'with great power comes great responsibility' this man who has assumed the power of a VC exhibits no commensurate responsibility whatsoever
lets examine a true world class insitution or the vision of DCE as I see it which is very achievable weather it is DCE or DTU if the person at helm does his job properly weather he is a principal or a VC
A library and a computer center open 24 hours, an all night cafeteria which is accessible to both male and female students.. buses running from TYPE V and SNH which ferry female students to library and computer center where they too like their male counterparts and contribute to the innovations at DCE.. these buses can be powered by biodiesel made by using the recycled frying oil generated at the local cafeteria thereby reducing the carbon footprint of the campus..
Hostel Timings: Somehow the timing of Girl's Hostel makes it in the demands list....Interestingly enough! But this has also been done, with more relaxations in the timings for Girls Hostel and extended hours for the Computer Center and Library. There is ample time and places for ... well...leave it.
the maggots say this to enhancing the timings of the girls hostel that it is only demanded so that male and female students can have sex on campus.. while i dont see any problem with that as long as the sex is consensual (of course the maggots could have turned gay by licking the balls of their ringleader but thats besides the point) do you realize the psychological impact of being caged inside their quarters for close to 12 hours a day?? no wonder the only suicide in DCE in my recent memory happened to be that of a female student...she was suffering from personal problems and the oppressive hostel atmosphere obviously did not help her cause..
continued with a vision.. every new research faculty being hired should be paid upto 50 lakh rupees based on their qualification and their achievements and should be hired on probation for three years if their experience is less than 10 years.. the money they are given, they should be given freedom to start a lab in their area of expertise and also bring in money from government and private grants.. a small percentage of this money lets say 30 should be given back to the university as a overhead so that the university coffers do not run dry and soon it becomes self sustainable.. the university should have an IP cell where all the intellectual property being generated by the university is patented and those patents are licensed to the industry for product development.. this IP office can also interface with a WELL planned technology incubator housing innovators and technology entrepreneurs who can convert this technology into viable products...
this is my vision.. so far what has PB sharma achieved?? he backs toy cars which i still maintain are difficult projects but they ARE NOT innovations.. he can go to the media and claim our students beat MIT cornell harvard and what not and look my vision is working please take a look at what MIT and harvard and cornell achieve routinely..
MIT
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11374632
harvard
http://www.seas.harvard.edu/news-events/press-releases/tiny-flying-bots-benefit-from-car-like-drivetrain
cornell
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Sept10/PersonalRobotics.html
i specifically chose examples from the field of robotics to underscore the point that these are real innovations toycars are not.. if our students do those projects and go abroad to these competitions, it doesnt make them or DCE/DTU better than student of MIT or Cornell or Harvard neither does it make the curriculum at DTU better than these esteemed institutions
The DCE team surpassed 26 teams from top ranking American Institutes like MIT, Cornell University to notch the widely-acclaimed Directors Award organized by Association of Unmanned Vehicle Systems International (AUVSI) in association with US Navy.
claims such as these make me sad.. they are false claims made to the media which parents see and send their children to DTU thinking that our kids will be better than those in MIT, cornell and harvard...
this happens to be the biggest lie.. now the maggots are gonna come back and say that atleast he is doing something taking the initiative walking the talk blah blah but please note he was doing the same thing as the principle of DCE.. I am not against conversion of DCE to DTU. I am merely here to point out that this conversion hasnt changed anything at DCE period!!
now back to the maggot land be right back!!
1990: PBS joins DCE as Principal @ Kashmiri Gate. The college is running 3 Academic Calendars behind, ruled by Bihari and Pahadi groups and on the verge of collapse.
1990-1995: Academic calendars restored, CEE introduced and New Campus started. DCE shifts partially to the new campus (and for the first time, features in the top 20!)
1995-1999: Great development work takes place in the new campus. The infrastructure is more than what is required at that moment. DCE is shining and going up up up in rankings.
1999-2003: PBS moves to Bhopal, NO INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT happens in this period. Due to the lack of progress, Govt reduces the budget too.
2003-2005: PBS returns, things pick up. Library, T&P, Computer Center finish...excellent progress on stalled development...inspite of great budgetary reductions.
2005-2008: PBS in Bhopal again, the great "Goldar Era"!! It's the same scene, no development work...no progress.
2008-till date: PBS come back and starts moving things again. The step to DTU ensures that there remains firm commitment from Govt towards this great institute.
Now in the last 20 years PBS has been here, he has really been here for 13 Years. In 13 years, moving from Kashmiri Gate to the present campus, having what we have today....working in the constraints of a typical Indian Government System....IS NO MEAN ACHIEVEMENT!!!
maggots giving a lesson in history .. allow me to do so as well.. all the achievements of PBS that you point out were his JOB. did he do it for free?? hell no!! he was piard, he had bunglows, his car with a driver and his personal servants!! and to say that anything good that ever happened to DCE happened because of him is a false claim of epic proportions!!!
first up the reason why no progress ever hapened at DCE while he was gone is entirely wrong.. he is politically so well connected that he ensured that while he was gone no permanent principal was appointed in his place so that he can come back and claim his place.. he stirs up trouble in bhopal comes to DCE stirs up trobles here goes back to bhopal.. what a morally upright person.. so from where I see it, for the last 20 years, DCE has seen only 13 years of development because of him
temporary or acting principles have the problem that if they take a tough decision on anything and if it comes under scrutiny then their careers are spoiled.. Prof D goldar did a lot of infrastructural work in the period from 2003 to 2004 while PBS wasnt around...also temporary principles are only appointed for a year or less so it gives them little time to do much or anything at all
I ask this to the maggots and their ringleader.. of the 20 years that he has been at the helm of affairs how many PhDs were awarded by DCE which were supervised by DCE faculty?? how many innovations have come out of DCE campus?? granted MIT cornell and harvard have over 100 years on us but are we even at 20% of these great institutions?? please dont say yes i would die laughing
1999-2003: PBS moves to Bhopal, NO INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT happens in this period. Due to the lack of progress, Govt reduces the budget too.
the maggots running this blogspot claim that there is one man in DCE whom they greatly respect for his credentials.. that man now stands against the VC he was appointed as a faculty during this period and he started setting up his labs and graduating his students.. so you cannot claim that no great development took place in this time.. you DO NOT know your history.,... you go to the office of PB sharma where he seats you in front of himself and gives you long pravachan about how great he is and what all he has done for DCE and then you come out all impressed and start barking at his detractors.. I ask you to know your history first!!
He introduced CEE, be brought the academic schedule on track, he made all the student chapters, he fostered relations with the Industry, he remade the lost DCE brand. This is an Undeniable truth;
this is another blatant lie.. just becuase you call it an undeniable truth, doesnt make it one!! i do not know about all the student chapters but in the year of 2004, I conceptualized and started the SPIE DCE chapter which happened to be the first SPIE chapter in india.. I collected 30 students and their fees, I deposited all of them through a money order, I organized lectures. If anything, it oo had to make multiple rounds to get the chapter approved, permissions to open bank accounts blah blah!! PB sharma never give one single rupee to SPIE DCE chapter as long as I was there.. I started SPIE DCE chapter for when I started working with Prof. R.K. Sinha, I knew that even If i or any other undergraduate gets a conference paper, we wont get funding to present it.. A year later, I got my paper and SPIE dce chapter gave me the money I presented my paper came back applied to colleges got through rochester..PB sharma has therefore NO ROLE WHATSOEVER in anything I have achieved.. In fact in no meaningful achievement on campus PB sharma has any role.. he just likes to take credit..
The validity of HIS flagship project, the biodiesel is known by many!!Ever since then each year atleast one student(chapter member) gets money from SPIE to go to conferences and also atleast one student associated with an SPIE chapter each year has gotten into reputed masters and PhD program. this is NOT PB sharmas achievement.. this is mine and my advisors Dr. RK sinhas who WAS NOT hired by PB sharma!! so please you know ur history.. Fuckers I am a part of it!! I made it!!
I am mostly done with this.. u idiots claim a lot of bullshit.. dogs bark on a street you either shoot them or you ignore them.. you say this
(Though I seriously believe you got yourself involved in this because you are a Schmuck!, हिंदी में कहें तो: "बेगानी शादी में, अब्दुल्लाह दीवाना!").
arre yaroon itna kiya aane waali nasl ke liye aur tumne begana kar diya?? every year I get multiple requests from PhD and undergraduate students for research papers, guidance on internships and admission abroad, codes for solving complex equations which actually happens to be my groups proprietary information.. should i turn those down if i am a begana as u put it?? of course it wouldnt matter to you maggots who do no real research.. your doctorate lies in abusing alumni.. dont worry I continue to help everyone.. you on the other hand are free to contact your useless seniors to get all the dirt you can on me to discredit me but dont answer the questions i raise for of course its beyond your paygrade.. your mental faculty is limited to being brainwashed and bark
you misquote me, abuse me, threaten me for what end?? why do you want me to shut up?? there are other alumini out there who feel the same way!!
http://www.praja.in/en/blog/shekhar-mittal/2010/03/15/delhi-college-engineering-delhi-technical-university-controversy-ex-s
I am sure you would abuse them too if you know who they are!! I am a person who worked closely with the system.. I dont have have all the answers.. My claims are the following
1.) conversion from DCE to DTU has achieved nothing.. If anything we have lost the backing of DU which has put us in a tight corner (refer to my previous posts about DU)
2.) P B sharma is not a saint as is claimed by the maggots.. he is a male chauvinistic pig head with a huge ego and this has put futures of thousands of students in jeopardy!!
3.) maggots arent repository of the thruth.. they are just maggots. they recite verbatim what their ring leader tells them to recite like a fucking mantra or shloka.. they bark at any and everyone who dissents with the now VC without putting the facts on the table
4.) I as an alumini like many others have a stake in the future of my alma matter.. If i feel the future of my alma matter is at stake,I will lash out.. this is not a begane ki shaadi.. this is my DCE ki barbaadi that has already happened
5. ) DCE has now been converted to DTU.. I doubt much can be done about it.. but if all the current stake holders like the alumini students and parents ask the right questions remedial measures might be taken.. those who dissent should not be castigated!! this is a democracy!!
6.) I have been threatened that I will not get a post doc position just becuase I choose to voice my opinion.. i openly challange PB sharma right here right now for the third time sir right a letter to whomever you deem fit!! If I cant get a Post doc just for showing dissent to your face then I am better off not working in this field.. research is a mettle of scientists and educators.. noble intellectuals whose job is to show dissent to think.. if someone penalizes me to think then I will gladly leave this line of work and go join my fathers business and make money.. this is how confident I am!! you on the other hand know that if you write a letter and nothing happens to me, it will be big humiliation to you!! IIT professors have tried writing letters to my university against me for challenging their conduct of asking 20 k rupees to students for internship citing that this is an IIT rule and nothing came of it!! this is how confident I am!! are you??
with this i sign off for now!!
Your latest post lacks content, looks like you did not have much answers. But whatever you could manage, let's talk about that.
maggots i hope my last three posts has enough content.. when you search for PB sharma, this blogspot also shows up on google along with countless other criticing him.. your one dumb link amongst my achievements doesnt bother me one bit!! you know know how far I am willing to go on this mission.. this could very well be my last post if you remove al the abusive and threatening content against me and anyone else from your blopspot and present your points in a valid manner.. if you continue to attack people and abuse them I will fight back and I will fight back hard
asta lavista maggots!!
p.s. you maggots asked for a lesson in entrepreneurship
Innovation/Incubator/Entrepreneurship: These are initiatives, that can only bear fruits over a period of time. But aren't you happy that something has finally been put in place? That there now exists a possibility of something happening, somewhat supported by a system. You talk about real companies coming out of this initiative (and you think it can happen right away!), how many such have come out of Indian Institutes anyways? Can you present some statistics from IIT's or other Top 10 Institutes? It does not happen overnight and it did not happen overnight in your adapted home, America.
I am sorry, It could not be accommodated in the main text.. while i am not your fathers servant and if I give examples from the west, you will wet your pants, allow me to direct you to the website of IIT B incubator
http://www.sineiitb.org/facilities.html and their governing board http://www.sineiitb.org/board.html
this has been around only close to ten years but thats beside the point. read the facilities page.. look at what all they provide.. experienced Entrepreneurs, technologists and industrialists as well as startup fundings.. the fake incubator at dce has students running up and down and secretarial support. laughable at best.. dude if the foundation is fucked up, the building is doomed to fall and it doesnt take an oracle to predict this!!
Friday, September 24, 2010
burnout inferno.. exposing the maggots
ohk.. back to some more maggot bashing..back from a whole night of fun and frolic.. before I immerse myself into problems of scientific merits lets clear some dirt on the social aspects of science and technology..
now I go deep into the maggot blogosphere and bring to you some well hidden lies.. watch and enjoy.. you need popcorns for this one.. its gonna be another long one..
this is perhaps the biggest bone of contention between me and the operators. their claim that universities look at some random stupid rankings appearing in some indian newspaper or magazine is the biggest piece of bullshit i ever heard. i doubt any of the maggots running this blogspot actually have any experience with US or any other foriegn admissions committee.. let me put some other credentials of mine on the table.. aside from working on my own admission packets, I used to be an active member of this forum www.edulix .com for over three years where i have helped thousands of aspirants from all across india answering their queries about admissions and profile evaluations.. so based on my experience (which we dont know if these maggots have any cause they have no name :( so sad.. ) I can tell you how admission committees work.
when you send you application packet abroad lets take the example of US, these days, most of things are done on the computer but most universities still only accept (or used to two years ago ) paper transcripts. these transcripts along with other materials you submit online go to the department to which you apply to for a particular program. for each position in a deptt, an excellent university gets more than 10 times the applicants. so the first round of screening is usually done by a graduate programs coordinators. so profiles which dont make the cut, their packets are never presented to the faculty for discussion.. usually only 25% of the total applicants make the cut here.. and this is where converting DCE to DTU brings maximum harm. DCE affiliated to Delhi university which according to wiki pedia
happens to be the top non IIT university.. compare this to DTU
so a graduate coordinator who has been getting packets from DU forever suddenly gets packets from DTU and she is like what the hell is this?? ah well we have enough applicants from IIT dump this shit.. so yes if you maggots say going solo cowboy style is way ahead for DCE you are wrong.. students will suffer for foreign admissions due to this change and please do not debate that.. period!! (man i like using period puts u on a fake moral high ground.. naa i dont need it.. i am already there.. will refrain!!)
ohk next topic..
yeah he had no role he jsut made a proposal oh how innocent he is.. lets talk about PB sharmas role.. from one of my previous posts
now back to maggot spot.. this can be bit confusing but please bear with me.. this is what maggots have to say
well maggots if your priya Pb sharma had held a referendum and all stakeholders, such as students, parents and alumini been involved, and online poll taken and then the decision were to be taken democratically, a campaign might not have been required.. but you take this opportunity to tell your ring leader hindsight is a bitch whose rabies hits u 24 hours after the bite..
anyhow next point about this lockheed martin business
i found this article here.. they say there is direct funding, the article says in this language
but i dont see any structured language anywhere that how much money will be provided over how many years.. most probaly, this is some made up temporary goodwill gesture before the visit of american president.. his closeness to her highness ensures that some such collaborative spoils are thrown this way.. but this DOES not necessarily percolate to anything for students
now the fake claims made listen to this very interesting..
from one their websites.. now the point is.. look at the standings below.. no mean feat this one yes..but if you compare it to other US school in the standing, DTU is actually 12th so i dont see the point in making soo much hooplah about it...
you can find the standings here
also like i have said before, most top universities dont endorse these student projects as research.. they just provide them with faculty and lab support and they do what they have to do.. so while dce is happy beating cornell at toy car competitions, look at what cornell is achieving..
in brief
A word of note here, I in no way undermine the efforts of students going into these projects.. this is all very good.. i congratulate you on your efforts but i also implore you to set bigger goals.. there is no limit to what you can achieve.. open your minds.. making toy cars while impressive is not real research.. figure out a problem, solve it, write it up publish it.. it will give you a heightened satisfaction.. if its engineering solutions that you wish to pursue, pursue something that is of use to you to the humanity.. for example, you know of the high flourine content in the DCE waters.. design a low cost reverse osmosis filter.. your bones will be better for it.. or set up an intra campus network so you can make phone calls within a campus for free .. (this will also eliminate the need to put jammers as shree PbS can monitor your convo from his office (see maggots i am not the biggest schmuck around..) or make satellites that can be launched into orbits and give real time data for scientific research... then u dont need this multi lakh rupees for your visa fees and plane tickets to go to US. this is tax payer money, money that your parents pay to the indian government.. money that should be used for R&D purposes.. if you have so much drive to mount on this big a project do it without expectation of any sponsorship from the college.. do it for yourself..
so while the comparison to cornell is over, lets go to some other aspects of whats maggots said..
three faculty in a school of management.. now i am laughing out louuuddd.. this is the biggest joke i have seen ever!! who asked you to start an MBA program immediately?? maybe a year could have been taken and proper faculty appointed before jumping the gun.. but alas money needs to be made right??
so three faculty.. lets go a little deep in this one.. this is the website for RIT saunders school of management..not a very top notch school...please count the number of faculty members here.. three?? you gotto be fucking kidding me!! you start a bschool and call yourself a university, with three faculty members running the show?? i wish the mba grads coming out of this DTU all the best!!
this one is the most interesting one.. AICTE approval is not required.. lets see.. the student faculty ratio at present (this is very approximate so bear with me) is 20 : 1.. which for the benefit of brainless maggots means 20 students for each faculty..
aicte stipulates the following
this can be found here
so while it is not required, there is no way in hell AICTE would give recognition to courses at DTU.. period!!
interesting argument.. if you see the list provided on the webpage..the number of faculties holding a phd is roughly 50%.. again, I am not anti non phd faculty but then again those who are these PhD holders, how many of them have a publication record better or even comparable than the best researcher currently in DCE?? how many experimentalists?? how many theoreticians?? was any startup funding given??
this actually drwas from the point that i have already made and was never replied to.. i have looked at most of these new faculty members and I have nothing impressive to report about.. I ask you to look at their records as well.. but then again who can understand?? people see numbers.. ooo 49.. whr did they come from different question all together..
bureaucratic bullshit... procedures are lengthy.. no remedy.. please get it addressed from here and there.. more running around..
ah some of the other points about placements and all i have already covered.. and i was told while you are no oracle but we are oracles and we can predict that you will eat your words.. (what double standards!!)
finally before i sign off for the night.. i copy and paste here one of my comments from my blogspot which might shed some light on my real motivations
also before the maggots reply to biodiesel, i recommend they watch this movie
one more thing!! these maggots have a habbit of twisting words out of context.. small slithery creatures these, probably expert at it!!
here we go.. this is what i wrote in the comments of their blog
this may not be clear to their pea brains but i meant that this competition where they enter are mostly frequented by US teams.. they see a team coming from what they perceive as a third world country and they are a little easy on the consolation prize
to which this is what they wrote
an opportunity to take potshots and hurl abuses by twisting sentences out of context.. bah for ur record its been over 4 years...
jana and asta lavista!!
now I go deep into the maggot blogosphere and bring to you some well hidden lies.. watch and enjoy.. you need popcorns for this one.. its gonna be another long one..
One visitor popped up this: hey..i was told thatt if u have a state univ degree it has certain weightage when u apply abroad or for mba..hw far is it true that central univ are having more weight-age than the state..??
Now...what can be more weird than this? Nobody in abroad cares about a University being Central or State!!! They just worry about the rankings, as of now DTU is proudly No.12 on University Rankings...and there is no reason why it will not continue to be ther
this is perhaps the biggest bone of contention between me and the operators. their claim that universities look at some random stupid rankings appearing in some indian newspaper or magazine is the biggest piece of bullshit i ever heard. i doubt any of the maggots running this blogspot actually have any experience with US or any other foriegn admissions committee.. let me put some other credentials of mine on the table.. aside from working on my own admission packets, I used to be an active member of this forum www.edulix .com for over three years where i have helped thousands of aspirants from all across india answering their queries about admissions and profile evaluations.. so based on my experience (which we dont know if these maggots have any cause they have no name :( so sad.. ) I can tell you how admission committees work.
when you send you application packet abroad lets take the example of US, these days, most of things are done on the computer but most universities still only accept (or used to two years ago ) paper transcripts. these transcripts along with other materials you submit online go to the department to which you apply to for a particular program. for each position in a deptt, an excellent university gets more than 10 times the applicants. so the first round of screening is usually done by a graduate programs coordinators. so profiles which dont make the cut, their packets are never presented to the faculty for discussion.. usually only 25% of the total applicants make the cut here.. and this is where converting DCE to DTU brings maximum harm. DCE affiliated to Delhi university which according to wiki pedia
The University of Delhi (Devanāgarī:दिल्ली विश्वविद्यालय, DU) is a central university situated in Delhi, India and is funded by Government of India. Established in 1922, it offers courses at the undergraduate and post-graduate level. Vice-President of India Mohammad Hamid Ansari is the Chancellor of the university. It has been ranked as the top non IIT university in India by the THES - QS world universities ranking.[2] The university has two campuses, namely north campus and south campus in the northern and southern part of the city respectively. The north campus is well connected with the yellow line of the Delhi Metro. The station is called Vishwavidyalaya, which means "university" in Hindi and Sanskrit. North campus is about 2.5 km from Delhi Vidhan Sabha and 7.0 km from ISBT.
happens to be the top non IIT university.. compare this to DTU
Delhi Technological University (DTU), [हिन्दी : दिल्ली प्रौद्योगिकी विश्वविद्यालय] is among the premier engineering colleges in India and is amongst the top 10 engineering colleges in India. It was established in 1941, originally as Delhi Polytechnic and was under the direct control of Government of India. The college is presently under the Government of National Capital Territory of Delhi since 1963 and is affiliated to the University of Delhi since 1952.[1]
so a graduate coordinator who has been getting packets from DU forever suddenly gets packets from DTU and she is like what the hell is this?? ah well we have enough applicants from IIT dump this shit.. so yes if you maggots say going solo cowboy style is way ahead for DCE you are wrong.. students will suffer for foreign admissions due to this change and please do not debate that.. period!! (man i like using period puts u on a fake moral high ground.. naa i dont need it.. i am already there.. will refrain!!)
ohk next topic..
He has no role except putting a proposal in place, which describes the need for more attention to this great Institute
yeah he had no role he jsut made a proposal oh how innocent he is.. lets talk about PB sharmas role.. from one of my previous posts
well known academicians of indian origin within and outside india were sent the blue-print of DTU and their comments sought.and these proposals were complied and presented to the competent authority.. however what was probably missing from those proposals was the reactions of people who were opposed to this change..
now back to maggot spot.. this can be bit confusing but please bear with me.. this is what maggots have to say
nother concern is why PBS Sir is not joining the students in their demand for Central Character? Well, first and foremost, he is a government employee. and hence cannot indulge in any anti-establishment practices (and opposing the state government decision amounts to exactly that). Secondly, after what these agitators have done (with their vicious, cheap personal attacks), do you really think he can join you for anything? This might have been possible, in fact, very possible, if the approach to this campaign was different.
well maggots if your priya Pb sharma had held a referendum and all stakeholders, such as students, parents and alumini been involved, and online poll taken and then the decision were to be taken democratically, a campaign might not have been required.. but you take this opportunity to tell your ring leader hindsight is a bitch whose rabies hits u 24 hours after the bite..
anyhow next point about this lockheed martin business
i found this article here.. they say there is direct funding, the article says in this language
The corporation will provide grant to the student group of DTU with Lockheed Martin-generated design space to structure their efforts.
but i dont see any structured language anywhere that how much money will be provided over how many years.. most probaly, this is some made up temporary goodwill gesture before the visit of american president.. his closeness to her highness ensures that some such collaborative spoils are thrown this way.. but this DOES not necessarily percolate to anything for students
now the fake claims made listen to this very interesting..
The DCE team surpassed 26 teams from top ranking American Institutes like MIT, Cornell University to notch the widely-acclaimed Directors Award organized by Association of Unmanned Vehicle Systems International (AUVSI) in association with US Navy.
from one their websites.. now the point is.. look at the standings below.. no mean feat this one yes..but if you compare it to other US school in the standing, DTU is actually 12th so i dont see the point in making soo much hooplah about it...
you can find the standings here
tudent Unmanned Air System 2010 Competition
Prizes Awarded
Rank School Prizes Cash Barrels Total Amount
1
North Carolina State
University
Overall: First
Mission: First
- Journal, Brief, & Fly
- Autonomous Navigation
- Autonomous takeoff
- Mission time
- Change waypoint
$9,700
2
Mississippi State
University
Overall: Second
Brief: Third
- Journal, Brief, & Fly
- Display new search area
- Autonomous Navigation
- Systems Engineering
- Mission time
- Change waypoint
$8,300
3
Embry‐Riddle
Aeronautical
University, Blackbird
Overall: Third
Brief: First
- Journal, Brief, & Fly
- Display new search area
- Autonomous takeoff
- Systems Engineering
- Mission time
- Change waypoint
$8,200
4
Universite de
Sherbrooke,
VAMUdeS
Overall: Fourth
Mission: Second
- Safety
- Journal, Brief, & Fly
- Autonomous takeoff
- Autonomous landing
- Systems Engineering
- Change waypoint
$6,900
5 Utah State University Mission: Ninth
- Autonomous Navigation
- Actionable intelligence
- Bonus ID
- Journal, Brief, & Fly
- Autonomous takeoff
- Autonomous landing
- Systems Engineering
- Change waypoint
$6,200
6
University of
California, San Diego
Overall: Fifth
Journal: First
- Display new search area
- Journal, Brief, & Fly
- Autonomous landing
- Systems Engineering
- Change waypoint
$5,700
7
Florida International
University
Mission: Eigth
Brief: Sixth
- Autonomous Navigation
- Journal, Brief, & Fly
- Target accuracy
- Mission time
- Change waypoint
$4,200
8 University of Alberta Mission: Fifth
Journal: Fourth
- Journal, Brief, & Fly
- Autonomous takeoff
- Mission time
- Change waypoint
$3,700
9
U.S. Air Force
Academy
Overall: Sixth
Brief: Second
- Journal, Brief, & Fly
- Systems Engineering $3,200
Rank School Prizes Cash Barrels Total Amount
10
Universite de
Sherbrooke, Elise
Mission: Seventh
- Autonomous Navigation
- Journal, Brief, & Fly
- Autonomous landing
$3,200
11
Embry‐Riddle
Aeronautical
University, Soar
Brief: Seventh
Journal: Tenth
- Journal, Brief, & Fly
- Director’s Award
- Autonomous takeoff
- Target accuracy
$3,100
12
Delhi Technological
University
Brief: Fourth
Journal: Second
- Journal, Brief, & Fly
- Systems Engineering
- Change waypoint
$2,900
also like i have said before, most top universities dont endorse these student projects as research.. they just provide them with faculty and lab support and they do what they have to do.. so while dce is happy beating cornell at toy car competitions, look at what cornell is achieving..
in brief
They're mundane, yet daunting tasks: Tidying a messy room. Assembling a bookshelf from a kit of parts. Fetching a hairbrush for someone who can't do it herself. What if a robot could do it for you?
Assistant professor of computer science Ashutosh Saxena is working to bring such robots into homes and offices. He leads Cornell's Personal Robotics Lab, which develops software for complex, high-level robotics. Among the lab's goals are programming robots that can clean up a disheveled room, assemble an Ikea bookshelf and load and unload a dishwasher -- all without human intervention.
A word of note here, I in no way undermine the efforts of students going into these projects.. this is all very good.. i congratulate you on your efforts but i also implore you to set bigger goals.. there is no limit to what you can achieve.. open your minds.. making toy cars while impressive is not real research.. figure out a problem, solve it, write it up publish it.. it will give you a heightened satisfaction.. if its engineering solutions that you wish to pursue, pursue something that is of use to you to the humanity.. for example, you know of the high flourine content in the DCE waters.. design a low cost reverse osmosis filter.. your bones will be better for it.. or set up an intra campus network so you can make phone calls within a campus for free .. (this will also eliminate the need to put jammers as shree PbS can monitor your convo from his office (see maggots i am not the biggest schmuck around..) or make satellites that can be launched into orbits and give real time data for scientific research... then u dont need this multi lakh rupees for your visa fees and plane tickets to go to US. this is tax payer money, money that your parents pay to the indian government.. money that should be used for R&D purposes.. if you have so much drive to mount on this big a project do it without expectation of any sponsorship from the college.. do it for yourself..
so while the comparison to cornell is over, lets go to some other aspects of whats maggots said..
13) No regular faculty in the School of Management of DTU.
Facts: (i) Nothing could be far from truth then a misguide such as this assertation. The fact is that three regular faculty members all possessing PhD degrees in Management have been appointed in the School of Management of DTU in addition to Prof. S.K. Garg himself a Ph.D in Industrial Management and two other adjunct regular faculty from Mechanical and Humanities Department.
three faculty in a school of management.. now i am laughing out louuuddd.. this is the biggest joke i have seen ever!! who asked you to start an MBA program immediately?? maybe a year could have been taken and proper faculty appointed before jumping the gun.. but alas money needs to be made right??
so three faculty.. lets go a little deep in this one.. this is the website for RIT saunders school of management..not a very top notch school...please count the number of faculty members here.. three?? you gotto be fucking kidding me!! you start a bschool and call yourself a university, with three faculty members running the show?? i wish the mba grads coming out of this DTU all the best!!
12) Not applying for approval of AICTE for the new courses introduced in DTU.
Facts: (i) DTU being a Technological University established by Govt. of Delhi does not require approval of AICTE for its UG / PG programs. The AICTE covers affiliated institutions which the DCE was.
this one is the most interesting one.. AICTE approval is not required.. lets see.. the student faculty ratio at present (this is very approximate so bear with me) is 20 : 1.. which for the benefit of brainless maggots means 20 students for each faculty..
aicte stipulates the following
he desirable student to teacher ratio for engineering degree program for the model curriculum will be 10:1. However, it should not be allowed to rise beyond 15:1.
this can be found here
so while it is not required, there is no way in hell AICTE would give recognition to courses at DTU.. period!!
(ii) In all 49 new regular faculty members have been recruited by DTU and they have joined academic departments in June / July this year. Thus, reducing the shortage of regular faculty considerably. The new faculty has joined in Departments of Applied Physics / Engineering Physics (08), Applied Chemistry (05), Polymer Science and Chemical Technology (02), Electrical and Electronics Engineering (04), Electronics and Communication (05), Computer Engineering and Software Engineering (03), Information Technology (06), Bio-Technology (03), Mechanical and Production Engineering / Automobile Engineering (06), Civil and Environmental Engineering (03), Training and Placement (01) and Delhi School of Management (03). The details of those joined have already been published in the last issue of DTU Times August edition and the updated list is given below:
interesting argument.. if you see the list provided on the webpage..the number of faculties holding a phd is roughly 50%.. again, I am not anti non phd faculty but then again those who are these PhD holders, how many of them have a publication record better or even comparable than the best researcher currently in DCE?? how many experimentalists?? how many theoreticians?? was any startup funding given??
this actually drwas from the point that i have already made and was never replied to.. i have looked at most of these new faculty members and I have nothing impressive to report about.. I ask you to look at their records as well.. but then again who can understand?? people see numbers.. ooo 49.. whr did they come from different question all together..
14) Lengthy procedure for getting anything done.
Students are advised to forward their applications through their respective Heads of the Departments to avoid any delay in processing their applications. In any case specific cases, if any, can be redressed through the Student Grievance Committee headed by the Dean (Student Welfare).
bureaucratic bullshit... procedures are lengthy.. no remedy.. please get it addressed from here and there.. more running around..
ah some of the other points about placements and all i have already covered.. and i was told while you are no oracle but we are oracles and we can predict that you will eat your words.. (what double standards!!)
finally before i sign off for the night.. i copy and paste here one of my comments from my blogspot which might shed some light on my real motivations
point isnt to dismantle PBS. he is wayy too powerful to be dismantled by a blogspot. the point it to make a point. this is democracy. everyone has a right to voice their concerns. voices cannot be shut down..
also before the maggots reply to biodiesel, i recommend they watch this movie
to people who are interested in knowing, this guy has been producing biodiesel at the back of his van since way before PB sharma put up his fake reactor in DCE campus and uses the fuel to run that same van.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1294164/
one more thing!! these maggots have a habbit of twisting words out of context.. small slithery creatures these, probably expert at it!!
here we go.. this is what i wrote in the comments of their blog
you talk about instances of corruption has ever a single drop of biodiesel be produced? all these assembled vehicles which go to competitions abroad do they even run? some best effort trophy won cause you were the only team from a third world country funded by money which comes from unscrupulous means hardly justifies itself as an excellence
this may not be clear to their pea brains but i meant that this competition where they enter are mostly frequented by US teams.. they see a team coming from what they perceive as a third world country and they are a little easy on the consolation prize
to which this is what they wrote
ust how long have you been @ Rochester? You scumbag, you already declare your own country Third World? Your and your entire generation of scumbags originated here....Have some respect. We remain Third World because of Third Class citizens like you. Anyways, this is not a debate on National Pride.
an opportunity to take potshots and hurl abuses by twisting sentences out of context.. bah for ur record its been over 4 years...
jana and asta lavista!!
Down with the maggots and the ring leader
ah so the maggots grow a tongue ( I shall henceforth call theavemydceisamyth bloggers as maggots as they are dickless gutless SOBs just like their mentor who do not have nuts to come clean fair and square).. fair enough.. to my readers, this is going to be a long one.. Its a friday and I have a party to go to.. (yes i have a life too )
the first post ever made by you maggots was on 18th march 2010 so you maggots were born on 18th march 2010... since u have been copying and pasting my abusive posts,, lets go into the history of my posts which by the way pre dates the history of your existence. then the whole world will see who is lying who is not
this was my first post ever.. note that it was made on 15th march. no abuse can be seen here and neither any lie in any sense.. I took a side on the issue thats it...
then the whole incident with the lathicharge and police arrests happened and I just wrote this
a little bit before that i wrote this
so far no SOB.. people please note.. and also the fact that these three posts were 15 days apart..I am not on fire.. i am not abusive, I am not instigating. I am staying firm on my ideology that DTU is wrong (more on that later) I do have better things to do in my life.. so far I am just voicing my opinion which the last time I checked I could do as this is still a democracy. Then these maggots come up with a fake profile as this one and add me on facebook
and then abuse me for voicing my opinion.. I was called madarchod, behenchod bhadva PB sharma ne tere liye itna kiya aur tu usi ke khilaf bolta hai. It should be noted that that was a facebook chat and i did not know that it cannot be saved.. nyhow.. in my last post i told you that these maggots tried this trick again
the threats in those txt shall be discussed later.. so when i was abused I thought I have the freedom to abuse too
i am still not abusive... this was when students were arrested on campus.. come on what kind of man leaves cops to handle the matter with students..if this man had chosen to take students into confidence before enacting this conversion, he would not have to see this.. of course he thinks he is some sort of messiah with a vision.. he is one of so many fake politicians and messihs that plaue indian education system today.. more on them later.. please note so far I havent been abusive even though i was abused at.. so this all is not about me..
this is the first time I up the ante a little bit AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I CALLED HIM sob
i WAS WATCHIg the video of parents tryin to et their point acroos and that time no one el;se was speakin. there was this one lady a mother who was trying to say somethin and this sick SOB SOB SOB n times over for what he did actually did not shut up or in the language of these maggots shut the fuck UP. Now this is bullshit. these parents pay money to send their children to this college. If a mother wants some answers u listen u sick SOB. this is what you teach to your students?? total disrespect towards women and a mother no less?? who is there for her son?? oh yes i abused him and i wish I were in india.. I would do it to his face in his office..
16 days l8r, i upped the ante
Oh i accept i wrote this
only becuase i saw this
I know PBS has multiple guards at his disposal and the fact that he did nothing to stop this brutal beating of students makes him criminally responsible and that is why i made criminal allegations.. did police ever question his guards??or question him for that matter?? In my adapted country as u maggots so call it whenevr something like this happens, everyone is questioned.. blame is fixed.. people are held accountable.. of course your white haired goon has so much power that no one asks anything of him which is sad...
yeah then I wrote what I wrote and I am proud of it.. of course you guys are linked to that goon and get feedback from him before writing nything here.. but more on that l8r.. first lets concentrate on your posts
btw good to know that you people also have the option of changing your stand
readers please compare this
with this one which was just published today
from a mindless puppet i am now a schmuck.. well maggots dont have mouth they just fart from their ass.. so these two farts my dear maggots arent identical.. Let me again retriate why I am here.. I voiced my concerns like many alumini did on facebook community.. please see the examples here
and compare them to my first three posts.. everyone has a right to choose which side of a debate they choose to be..i choose my side and I was abused for it.. I am sure these guys were too and choose not to come back or perhaps the powers to be were threatened more by me.. whatever the reason, i was abused, parents of children were abused, teachers were abused.. when PB sharma is abused these maggots start multiplying.. who fights for the rights of these individual who do not have power to write fake recommendations letters to secure free services of nameless internet maggots??
so i think i pretty much covered this one.. right flithy maggots??
anyhow now lets cover this one
so this medium doesnt target me??
this is a biggest lie.. I would never seek a recommendation from a man as corrupt as your present VC. people who nominated me were DR R.K. Sinha, Prof K.L deori and prof.
M kulkarni..
done so this is first targeting of my credibility based on false lies and allegations
by inserting text lables and other bullshit you plan to undermine my credibility?? jesus chirst maggots.. grow up!! oh wait maggots are dickless creatures who cannot grow up.. sorry guys you have pathetic DNA cant be helped.. you targetted me the moment u used my advisors name and not only that you do this here
and here
and here
and here
you seriously think your PB sharma can do anything to undermine my academic credibility?? I throw an open invitation to him through my blog to write whatever mail to wherever and whomsoever he wishes to write.. I am still writing papers, making progress on my projects, getting papers for reviewing from top journals so i am all set.. I can take this to whatever ends that are necessary.
Understand one more thing, I couldnt care less I PBS is removed or DTU is not repealed.. btw a positive development for you maggots to disprove in your next blogpot post as negative
the reason why i am here is to present a view which is unbiased.. not one have i algined with SAVE DCE movement nor will I ever align with anybody else. they have their own viewpoint.. you have your own.. my agenda is protection of my alma mater..
which is already destroyed as far as I see it.. I will be here now forever presenting the other side of the story for i know and all your threats and rants about this being a suicidal mission are wasted on me
I will also inform you maggots when i plan to visit india next and then you can do whatever you please.. stop taking a moral high ground. you are nothing but hired goons who write what they are told to write.. no wonder u did noot have nything on bio diesel and fake toy cars.. you need to check with your messiah for numbers on those..
now lets cover the reply posted on dce website which u maggots copied on your blogspot.. and u say u arent linked to PBS
ah well getting too long.. different post perhaps...off to my nice friday night
we have better things to do in life.this singular fact however Is debatable.. so these good for nothing faceless maggots posted a big post so I have to go bigger.. In a ideological fight such as this one, I simply cannot hold back..
the first post ever made by you maggots was on 18th march 2010 so you maggots were born on 18th march 2010... since u have been copying and pasting my abusive posts,, lets go into the history of my posts which by the way pre dates the history of your existence. then the whole world will see who is lying who is not
Prashant Baveja guys sorry to disappoint you but a.) PB is never gonna leave. he has worked hard for this DTU for more than five years b.) The powers to be behind this are way stronger than you can conceptualize. Making DCE a university was never a knee jerk reaction. It has been in planning for many years. Many times DCE was 'overlooked' for IIT status one begins to think whether there was ever an effort to make it one.
I wish all of you guys and gals involved to promote tis cause the best but please be on guard. As it is PB can be problematic, a desperate PB is a dangerous PB. So far you guys have done great. only 77 people made it for mid sems. try and get this number down to zero by march 19th and you will have achieved a lot
good luck
a concerned DCE alumnus
this was my first post ever.. note that it was made on 15th march. no abuse can be seen here and neither any lie in any sense.. I took a side on the issue thats it...
then the whole incident with the lathicharge and police arrests happened and I just wrote this
My heart goes out to for the protesters who got hurt today. I feel sorry for those who did not attend today in fear of persecution or to watch IPL. Trust me when I say, cause I know the man, PBS is the most vindictive person you will meet and he will avenge himself bit by bit if he is left with any power or authority our your futures. Dont be cowed down by this show of brute strength. PBS will do much worse if unity is not shown.
a little bit before that i wrote this
finally if nothing happens, that is if CM neither removes pabbu nor
changes DTU back to DCE which might be a realistic scenario, you have
the options of approaching the judciary which will be a long and
protracted battle or laying a firm demand of diluting his powers by
amending of the DTU act which will include appointing of a paid board
of governers of DCE comprising of eminent alumini, industry person and
acadmecians so that he does not have whole or sole power to make your
lives miserable.
See more
so far no SOB.. people please note.. and also the fact that these three posts were 15 days apart..I am not on fire.. i am not abusive, I am not instigating. I am staying firm on my ideology that DTU is wrong (more on that later) I do have better things to do in my life.. so far I am just voicing my opinion which the last time I checked I could do as this is still a democracy. Then these maggots come up with a fake profile as this one and add me on facebook
and then abuse me for voicing my opinion.. I was called madarchod, behenchod bhadva PB sharma ne tere liye itna kiya aur tu usi ke khilaf bolta hai. It should be noted that that was a facebook chat and i did not know that it cannot be saved.. nyhow.. in my last post i told you that these maggots tried this trick again
and PS next time you need access to my facebook profile, grow some nuts as add me from your real id..not some fake avantika sharma id... see these maggots have used this trick before on other people..
And then, all you are interested in is: Women! LMAO, Your facebook says so Dude! LOLZ Another despo with nothing better to do.but alas wen their parlor tricks dont work on they cry as all sore losers do
Who wants to ever visit the Facebook profile of a jerk like you. You are famous in the www now through this blog Mr Prashant Baveja (as you realize already), and people come here looking for you. STFU, and realize the suicidal mission you are on. You think you will tag your posts as PBS (lol) and ever accomplish anything!? LMAO....He ain't going to apply for Post Doc, you gonna do that soon mate.
the threats in those txt shall be discussed later.. so when i was abused I thought I have the freedom to abuse too
down with state control of education!! shame on delhi government shame on sheila dixit shame on PBS!! all hail democracy!!this is worst than communist china...
i am still not abusive... this was when students were arrested on campus.. come on what kind of man leaves cops to handle the matter with students..if this man had chosen to take students into confidence before enacting this conversion, he would not have to see this.. of course he thinks he is some sort of messiah with a vision.. he is one of so many fake politicians and messihs that plaue indian education system today.. more on them later.. please note so far I havent been abusive even though i was abused at.. so this all is not about me..
PBS doesnt want a world class institution. he wants a world class fiefdom. I in my days at dce had the pleasure of being inside his house. He had one servant for every household chore and a fleet of drivers for his slew of personal and government cars. Imagine his perks when he makes VC. He is one man whose intentions disgust me. If all he wanted was money, he should have gracefully retired and joined a private education group like jaypee and amity . They would have given him tons of money. His disease is worse. He has a messiah complex and is playing God with the destiny of DCE and its students
this is the first time I up the ante a little bit AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I CALLED HIM sob
The fact that during the meeting when mothers were speaking and this sick SOB refused to shut his trap disgusts me beyond the limits I thought I was capable of experiencing disgust
i WAS WATCHIg the video of parents tryin to et their point acroos and that time no one el;se was speakin. there was this one lady a mother who was trying to say somethin and this sick SOB SOB SOB n times over for what he did actually did not shut up or in the language of these maggots shut the fuck UP. Now this is bullshit. these parents pay money to send their children to this college. If a mother wants some answers u listen u sick SOB. this is what you teach to your students?? total disrespect towards women and a mother no less?? who is there for her son?? oh yes i abused him and i wish I were in india.. I would do it to his face in his office..
16 days l8r, i upped the ante
This
incident is clearly orchestrated by those occupying the highest seat of
power and who are threatened by this agitation. It is unfortunate but
it also seems that those involved could be students under the thumbs of
PBS or his hired goons which make no mistake are evrywhere. Thr are
going to be more such incidents w...hich
he will use as an argument to make DTU autonomous for better
controlling the 'discipline' situation on the campus. Right from the
start of this agigation i have marvelled at the resolve of the current
batch and have also pointed out at what you are up against. This is
only going to get worse till he has his way or he is shown the door. My heart goes out to those
who got injured and I pray for their speedy recovery.
Oh i accept i wrote this
only becuase i saw this
earlier also there had been fights between these groups but this time there were many things which were unusual-police was present in guest house and outside pb's house but it didn't came during the fight it only turned up after everything was over .when they were asked why didnt they came they said"upar se orders aye the-why were cctv cameras turned off when usually they work all day and night-why guards didnt tried to stop the fight -why only people who were leading the protest were seriously injured-media do not telecast when we protestat india gate but it was present in the campus at midnight-the whole case happened when two groups were already in fight wid each other.so the day was chosen so that an illusion can be created that it was a gangwar and it was also telecasted to show people in general that such gangwars and protests are common in this college and spoil the very name of college so you decide who can plan all this ........
I know PBS has multiple guards at his disposal and the fact that he did nothing to stop this brutal beating of students makes him criminally responsible and that is why i made criminal allegations.. did police ever question his guards??or question him for that matter?? In my adapted country as u maggots so call it whenevr something like this happens, everyone is questioned.. blame is fixed.. people are held accountable.. of course your white haired goon has so much power that no one asks anything of him which is sad...
yeah then I wrote what I wrote and I am proud of it.. of course you guys are linked to that goon and get feedback from him before writing nything here.. but more on that l8r.. first lets concentrate on your posts
btw good to know that you people also have the option of changing your stand
These two, coming from the mouth (or fingers, or fingers in mouth) of his excellency Prashant Baweja, are NOT same.
readers please compare this
A special mention of a gentleman called Prashant Baveja, who has been the "only" alumni on fire in Save DCE group @ FB. Man, when we learnt something...इंसानियत से विश्वास उठ गया! (one of his batch-mates contacted us). This guy was nominated, helped to great great extent by our VC Sir, because of which he sits in that foreign university. And still, guess why he is sending hate messages there??? His Father and Dr N. K. Bhagat were classmates @ Kurukshetra University!!!!!!!!!! So guys, he ain't helping you or advice you as an alumni, he is just helping Bhagat Uncle! You suck Mr Baweja! You are as shameless and pathetic a person as there can be, AND WE HAD TO EXPOSE YOU!
with this one which was just published today
(Though I seriously believe you got yourself involved in this because you are a Schmuck!, हिंदी में कहें तो: "बेगानी शादी में, अब्दुल्लाह दीवाना!").
from a mindless puppet i am now a schmuck.. well maggots dont have mouth they just fart from their ass.. so these two farts my dear maggots arent identical.. Let me again retriate why I am here.. I voiced my concerns like many alumini did on facebook community.. please see the examples here
Amit Ahuja Guys can we create a SAVEDCE fund for alumni to contribute towards the movement . I believe that your student council can appoint some responsible student member as treasurer and then open an account in a bank , where in all funds can come.
If a good amount of money gets collected then a good lawyer can also be hired to give an expert opinion or try to find out an alumni who is also a LLB & request him to give a free help.
These are just some thoughts that were coming in mind today . so i want u guys to discuss these.
Amit Ahuja 800 Hits in a Day on www.savedce.in .. You guys are doiing wonders man .. Keep up .. You will win surely ..If you need the analytics report do contact me...!
Neha Rathore guy! you are goign such great work. Sadly i am too far to be part of it... Keep up the good work.... try to Make the alumni pull back thr support!!!
and compare them to my first three posts.. everyone has a right to choose which side of a debate they choose to be..i choose my side and I was abused for it.. I am sure these guys were too and choose not to come back or perhaps the powers to be were threatened more by me.. whatever the reason, i was abused, parents of children were abused, teachers were abused.. when PB sharma is abused these maggots start multiplying.. who fights for the rights of these individual who do not have power to write fake recommendations letters to secure free services of nameless internet maggots??
nd you didn't use SOB once my friend, you used it all along. You stand on no moral grounds Mr Baweja, you are a filthy, abusive, arsewipe, nothing else.
so i think i pretty much covered this one.. right flithy maggots??
anyhow now lets cover this one
I say again, this medium does not target you, It targets your lies and abuses.
so this medium doesnt target me??
This guy was nominated, helped to great great extent by our VC Sir, because of which he sits in that foreign university.
this is a biggest lie.. I would never seek a recommendation from a man as corrupt as your present VC. people who nominated me were DR R.K. Sinha, Prof K.L deori and prof.
M kulkarni..
done so this is first targeting of my credibility based on false lies and allegations
(Oh yeah, our blog comes up 9th when searching for your name on Google :), hope Prof. Govind Agrawal/Dr. Drew Maywar read your doings soon!)
by inserting text lables and other bullshit you plan to undermine my credibility?? jesus chirst maggots.. grow up!! oh wait maggots are dickless creatures who cannot grow up.. sorry guys you have pathetic DNA cant be helped.. you targetted me the moment u used my advisors name and not only that you do this here
Is that how you address the head of an Institute Prashant? (PBS becomes Pabbu, what do you call Dr. Govind Agarwal? Govindu? Gondu? Aggu?! Haggu?!).
and here
and realize the suicidal mission you are on. You think you will tag your posts as PBS (lol) and ever accomplish anything!? LMAO....He ain't going to apply for Post Doc, you gonna do that soon mate.
and here
It is only a matter of time, before your own doings reflect in your listed credentials.
and here
Last but not the least, we feel it is high time people at Nonlinear Fiber Optics Group know you better. It will be done, we assure you.
you seriously think your PB sharma can do anything to undermine my academic credibility?? I throw an open invitation to him through my blog to write whatever mail to wherever and whomsoever he wishes to write.. I am still writing papers, making progress on my projects, getting papers for reviewing from top journals so i am all set.. I can take this to whatever ends that are necessary.
Understand one more thing, I couldnt care less I PBS is removed or DTU is not repealed.. btw a positive development for you maggots to disprove in your next blogpot post as negative
New Delhi, Sep 21 (PTI) The Delhi High Court today sought response from Centre and the city government on a petition challenging the conversion of Delhi College of Engineering (DCE) into Delhi Technical University (DTU). A Division Bench of Chief Justice Dipak Misra and Justice Manmohan also issued a notice to Delhi University besides the Central and Delhi governments and sought their response by December 8 on a petition filed by a group of students.
Filing the petition, the students pleaded to the court to declare the DTU Act, under which the DCE, earlier under DU, was converted into a state university, as ultra vires. They also pleaded to the court to quash the notification issued by LG in this regard in July last year.
the reason why i am here is to present a view which is unbiased.. not one have i algined with SAVE DCE movement nor will I ever align with anybody else. they have their own viewpoint.. you have your own.. my agenda is protection of my alma mater..
which is already destroyed as far as I see it.. I will be here now forever presenting the other side of the story for i know and all your threats and rants about this being a suicidal mission are wasted on me
I will also inform you maggots when i plan to visit india next and then you can do whatever you please.. stop taking a moral high ground. you are nothing but hired goons who write what they are told to write.. no wonder u did noot have nything on bio diesel and fake toy cars.. you need to check with your messiah for numbers on those..
now lets cover the reply posted on dce website which u maggots copied on your blogspot.. and u say u arent linked to PBS
ah well getting too long.. different post perhaps...off to my nice friday night
Thursday, September 23, 2010
OK now my turn
The game IS on!
We do not threaten anyone and we also openly said that we did not mean to target you. You seem to be pretty disturbed Prashant, which made us wonder whether to react to your posts or not. But you asked for it, so here we are..
First your most recent post, and then we come to you.
DU Semester System: So, how exactly do you propose this should have been done? Perhaps you are suggesting that there should have been Remuneration adjustments first, and then implementation of semester system? The point was not whether semester system implementation at DU is correct or not, the point is the way DUTA reacted to the entire episode....the trend that is being spotted in Universities across India. Shouting slogans, Abusing/Manhandling of a reputed person in public, taking out शवयात्रा for a person...is this the way of the educated? If there is some political organization exhibiting such behavior, it is understandable (not acceptable still), but the individuals involved here are highly qualified faculty members. Do you support this?
I do not support or condone anything.. India unfortunately happens to be the land of extremes. The situations that can be resolved by dialog are instead solved by media. So while a Mr paintal goes ahead and announces to the media that semester system will be imposed without resolving it with the teachers first, the teachers take it to the streets. sorry state oif affairs of my homeland, which is why I choose to leave, never to come back....
And furthermore, the pay scale of DU teachers already exceeds the scale of a number of State/National Universities operating the semester system.
again this is something which is very subjective..
It is Jadavpur University, not Jabalpur University. This whole story of Cell Phone jammers is a BIG LIE propagated @ the Facebook group. There is no basis or truth to this, no such action has been proposed or planned by the University. Why do you take everything said by Facebookers as absolute truth? Come on, you are a great guy, with exceptional achievements, outstanding academic qualifications, a rising star in the academia, almost a candidate for the next Nobel Prize, yadda yadda yadda ....use a little reason. If you say every individual has the right to privacy, then every Institute has the right to security. Have you already forgotten the tragic fight that happened in recent past, should that not prompt the University authorities to take some steps? If they do it, you scream...if they don't you scream still! The OMV card is being implemented precisely to restrict the entry of external elements inside the campus, and put more accountability on Teachers to respect their time schedule, and this is surely causing some flutter and worry.
if it is just a matter of security then perhaps giving id cards with swipe access should be enough.. or better vigilance by the security personnel at the entry points.. I dont care if the walls have to be barricaded by electrified barbed wire but in my head rights of an individual far exceed the rights of a collective or an institution.. In any world class university as is so eloquently put about DTU, teachers and students are given the freedom to do what they please with their time and accountability is examined through their performance. If a teacher expects to go home during his off time then he is allowed to do so in most places of this planet, without him to have punch in his timmings..
Innovation/Incubator/Entrepreneurship: These are initiatives, that can only bear fruits over a period of time. But aren't you happy that something has finally been put in place? That there now exists a possibility of something happening, somewhat supported by a system. You talk about real companies coming out of this initiative (and you think it can happen right away!), how many such have come out of Indian Institutes anyways? Can you present some statistics from IIT's or other Top 10 Institutes? It does not happen overnight and it did not happen overnight in your adapted home, America.
granted it did not happen overnight in my adapted country, a good intent was there to begin with. everywhere in US whereever there are tech incubation centers, entrepreneurs in residence are hired, annual business plan competitions are held and winners are provided with stage zero capital, students are taught entrepreneurial accounting, how to accure capital, how to approach Venture Capitalists .. i dont see any of those.. and unless those are in place, it is just a waste of time and effort and tax payers money..
Finally, If we were in any way directly connected to PBS, you would not have to wait for some kind of communication with your Supervisors/University officials. This would have already happened. The very fact that this has not, demonstrates that we are not having any intention whatsoever to personally target you. The matter was related to your doings on Facebook (where you were/are the only alumni participating actively). You showed disrespect to your Alma Mater, the head of an Institute and above all, a Government of India Employee. Disagreement, Dissent is different from Abuse, YOU ABUSED.
I lied, I instigate, prove me that I lied...
Baseless Allegations that you leveled against PBS. The objective was not to instigate students?
baseless?? you call them baseless?? students were beaten up in my campus.. yes that disturbed me..it should disturb any and everyone that has ever been a part of that campus.. it was the responsibility of the VC, warden, security officer and all of those officials to keep students safe..the lathi charge incident, even if sh PBS doesnt order it, he does nothing to actually protect the students..granted they were protesting against him but they are still his students.. He has no right to stand idle and do nothing about something like this.. and i did not mean to instigate nor was it my intention but my abuses were directed at him for he was responsible for all these occurrences.. period!! if something like this happens again, he is responsible period!!
Is that how you address the head of an Institute Prashant? (PBS becomes Pabbu, what do you call Dr. Govind Agarwal? Govindu? Gondu? Aggu?! Haggu?!). Is this what is the worth of all your academic qualifications and credentials? Is this the role model what you claim you are? And is SOB another American Clan? Last I know it was an ABUSE, whether in Jhumri Talaiyya or Rochester.
SOB is son of a bitch and yes it is an abuse and yes i used it only one time when students were attacked on campus if they are again, I will come out and say it again. regardless of weather it is ordered by PBS or not, if it happens, since DTU is now autonomous, it is his responsibility as the VC
Aren't these serious, unfounded lies you propagated, to make the most of an unfortunate incident? You leveled criminal allegations against a Government Employee, do you even know the consequences should a legal proceeding be initiated on this matter? You'll be in the doghouse dude, or worse in the slammer.
Please do... i would love to see that happen.. thats the beauty of democracy, anyone can allege anything..but my allegations werent baseless.. my basis was one simple truth, students were beaten on campus an autonomous campus of which VC has the full administrative control. Even if he doesnt pick up the phone and order a hit on the students himself, It happened on his campus and he is responsible..
This is where you claim DTU degree will have no value when applying for foreign universities..Clear instigation and causing fear amongst students...
For your information, after the conversion to DTU and in spite of the unjustified student agitation, here are the latest rankings:
see the problem is you call it unjustified.. who are u to call it unjustified?? and the most interesting aspect of the CON perpetrated by PBS escapes you... right now DCE has JUST been renamed DTU. so the rankings that you cLAIM AS THAT OF dtu ARE ACTUALLY dce'S. YOU CAN call a dog a cat but it will still bark.. and the placements you claims as DTUs are also DCEs and the surge you see in those are just a temporary relief from global recession.. so before you put your victory paint on and start dancing around the fire, understand that these are not your achievements.. these are the achievements of the brand name which now stands destroyed.. first bacth of DTU kids come out in 2013.. lets talk then,,,
even now students coming out of that campus are DCE students with transcripts attested by DU registrar.. wait till 2013 when these very applications are sealed in a DTU envelope.. i assure you these rankings will be meaningless, those packets WILL NOT be OPENED..
What do you say now? D'oh. DTU continues to make waves, for the first time there are tie-up with reputed Institutes/Universities, MoU's with companies like Lockheed Martin, the list goes on. It is only the sickos like you (who are a clear minority now), who see everything wrong out there. Based on facts, ALL IZZ WELL and rocking! Stop being a Space Cadet, Wake up!
see sh PBS is very good at making news.. he is the academic version of a parlour trick magician..he waves his hand one way and they other way is where the real stuff happens.. it called the sleight of the hands.. so these MOUs are nothing.. does lockheed martin actually give DTU money to build anything?? hell noo!! just a media circus.. an MOU just means that DTU will be working on projects of interest to LM (for FREEEE!!!) this is just BULLSHIT!!! a camouflage really and just making waves which will die down eventually with no real output.. and tie ups with institutions?? again wats the basis of the collaborations?? money?? equipment?? troubles is such MOUs existed in my time too.. i was present when some of them were being signed.. but that is what they were.. bunch of bullshit.. and being a majiority doesnt mean you are right and being a minority doesnt mean I am wrong.. I have always believed in right or wrong in the truest sense.. which is why I am where I am. I can back whatever I say with all my credentials on the line and yet you choose to remain anonymous for you hide in the safety of a crowd or majority
you call me a sicko, ask me to wake up.. its time you wake up and see a spade for spade.. lets talk about the biodiesel project and the 7 toy cars which are paid upward of 20 lakhs every year to compete abroad and are laughably called innovations.. In my adapted country, they are just that, students projects self-financed by students..imagine if this 20 lakh were to be given to a faculty as a startup money as is given in world class institutions, that is what would make DCE
truly world class
the basis of my beef with PBS is just this.. converting DCE to dTU has achieved nothing in particular.. this weekend, i will reply to the reply posted by you.. to the save dce message allegations.. I know they may or may not be true but your reply tells me they definitely are..
Enough for the day....
and PS next time you need access to my facebook profile, grow some nuts as add me from your real id..not some fake avantika sharma id.. and PBS is not the only academic messiah who i have confronted.. I have confronted others as well in india for their academic wrong doings towrads students, an institution by doing so against india in general.. I will continue to do so.. for it is because of individuals like these not only my alma mater but alma mater of so many other like me will be rendered a mere shadow of their former glorious past!!
and please stop saying that you arent trying to target me.. stop playing the moral high ground card.. first you say i am doing this for sh NK bhagat now who am i doing this for?? I explicitly asked to remove any references to my advisor and those clearly werent done and finally you put in the label my name so while searching for it in google you page shows up.. guess what two can play this game..
finally my justification of accusing the VC for students being beaten up on campus.. look at this video about CWG mess http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/131523/the-commonwealth-games-hall-of-shame.html . at the top prime minister of india is told to be responsible... perhaps rajdeep sardesai shud also be put in jail..curiously the same delhi government responsible for CWG mess also passed the DTU act.. perhaps the coincidence escapes you but it doesnt escape me..
Tuesday, September 21, 2010
down with the propagandist website wallahs
Mr Prashant Baveja, we are choosing not to respond to your self-boasting and idiotic posts and comments. You clearly aren't worthy of the time we have already spent on you. The right opportunity, shall be the the moment of strike. It is only a matter of time, before your own doings reflect in your listed credentials. We did not mean to attack you really, but what you did on SaveDCE facebook group is shameful. You indeed spread lies, instigated students and abused the head of your alma mater. This alone demonstrates your integrity and credibility. You shall be sorry, because we live our life carrying all our karma's on our shoulder (and this one will weigh heavy on you).
well this is what I get for my previous post. obviously the matters of DCE are beyond the paygrade of this blogspot operator. he just barks at everybody who has an opinion against PB sharma for job references.. I now am pretty sure the person(s) behind the blogspot operation is a website wallah from 2010 or 2011 batch looking for recommendations from sh P.B. Sharma.. look at his wordings.. he suffers from the same megalomaniac disorder as PB sharma does. the case of paintal vs DUTA is far more complex than your pea sized brain can comprehend.. In most world class institutions as claimed by your priya PB sharma, the teachers are paid by semester. If paintal wants to start a semester system he should also look at corresponding renumeration models.. why should teachers grade twice the number of exams and course materials for thankless SOBs like you who question their credentials while not getting paid.. dude all coins have two sides.. you make a war cry har har mahadev wear a langot a defend PB Sharma.. perhaps PB sharma should put RFID tags in all your underwears so that he knows when you shits or take a leak.. Jabalpur university is another issue.. are u telling me that there are maoists in DTU campus that cell phone jammers should be installed?? oh come on.. grow a pair and accept the fact that every individual has a right o privacy.. last i checked this was a democracy..
oh and my comments were boastful and idiotic u said?? well you called me a b-grade shame to DCE... so i thought maybe i should put my creds on the table and ask u to put yours.. obviously you have none... so i wasnt boasting. I was just putting my point on the table. If I were boasting, I wud put a complete list of creds on the table which is more than twice of wat i choose to reveal.. so stop whinning like a little puppy..
and who are you to decide my karma?? you sick individual, all i did was to ask VC to take moral responsibility for lathi charge on students and the violence that happened on campus. even if he did not order it, the fact that it happened on his campus wen he is the VC makes it the responsibility of the white haired good for nothing useless administrator Sh PB sharma.. and the RTIs i speak of yes he is accountable for the teams he is funding and the projects he is diverting tax payer money to.. oh our teams beat the teams from MIT, that statement in your DTU times is laughable at best.. most of these toys just get some consolation prize for appearance which is hailed as the next big thing . so please u who have no head and no understanding of research should atleast not dare to dispute what I am trying to say.. I have far more experience than your white haired mentored sh. Pb Sharma had at my age.. go ask him .
anyhow both you and PB sharma need to get your heads out of your own asses.. (btw this is not an abuse.. its an american clan.. since u are from jhumari tallyian i am sure to you it appears like an abuse.. cant help it dude!!) Oh everyone is trying to target me, everyone has a single point agenda, everyone wants to target me for I am soo pure, made of salt water and milk, bullshit..
ohh the right opportunity shall be the time of strike... I am sooo scared .. wat will i do?? the PB sharma's lapdogs and blood hounds are after me.. whr will I hide oh no.. like i said in my last post and the posts of facebook I have outgrown the sphere of influence casted by PB sharma and I take this wow that I will take 10 minutes from my busy life everyday to demystify all the blogposts appearing here.. game on people.. lets see who has more juice..
now the most eminent researcher on DCE campus has voiced his concerns against the ways of shri PB sharma, the credibility of this blogspot is again under question.. dude i couldnt care less if Pb sharma remain VC or not.. but the concerns i raise in my previous post are genuine and the fact that you claim to choose not to answer them tells me you for most part dont have enough IQ to understand them in the first place. I lied, I instigate, prove me that I lied.. talk about the fake biodiesel project, or the fake toy projects or this incubator that has been setup?? you think a student being the coordinator of a technology incubator is the right thing?? just a hogwash.. you need an entrepreneur in residence to run an incubator.. some one who has seen startup success and failures.. I dont see any entrepreneur in residence or dedicated expert to fosters product development from high tech ideas. To me this too seems like another useless infrastructure with a bunch of kids jumping around and wasting taxpayers money.
Tell it to any world class institution that the coordinator of an incubator is a 20 something kid and they will laugh at you.. and no disrecpect to this kid.. I dont know him personally but he is just a final year student I am sure he is very capable but this is not the way to setup any infrastructure.. I am looking forward to seeing real companies coming out from DCE not aglasem.com or some other bullshit venture with no head or toe or real product.. the money for setting up this cell and so-called secretarial support costs real money.. I wonder whr that comes from..
Sunday, September 5, 2010
lets call a spade a spade...
they said this
to which I said this
to which they said this.. (after three months mind you... It saddens me that this the intellectual extent of people backing DTU
this can be followed in detail here ---->
now that we have the facts in order, lets step by step deconstruct my motivations against DTU, what I am trying to say, and what motivates me to say so.. That is why the name of this post is lets call a spade a spade
1.) My academic credibility. SO first of all I am told I cannot even achieve the shoelace of what Prof. P.B. Sharma has achieved. Lets have a look at my shoelaces so as to speak.. I passed my undergrad from Delhi College of Engineering with 77% marks in aggregate (To the academic underachievers running that blogspot, that is first class with distinction). Based on my academic record I got into direct track PhD program at The Institute of Optics, University of Rochester where I completed my masters in optics with a GPA of 3.5/4.0 and have since been a part of Nonlinear Fiber Optics Group. I have Published 3 papers in Top Ten Journals of my area and 4 th is in the peer review process. They are all first author papers and my list of publications can be accessed here . I have given three contributed talks at well respected conferences in my area. On the academic extra-curricular front, I have received two separate travel grants from SPIE, 2006 SPIE student scholarship for outstanding future contribution to Optics and Photonics and 2010 guest scholarship from Swedish Institute for conducting doctoral studies in Sweden. And that is just the jist of it. I am currently 25 going on 26 and I will finish my Doctoral studies sometime next year. So as far as comparing shoelaces go, as they say here in america "Bring it on Bitches". I hope this explains who I am. I really dont need to go to my advisor to know who PBS is and I certainly need the owner of that blog to grow a pair and tell it to the world who they are and lets have their academic achievements on the table. For If I am B grade product of DCE, I would wanna know all the A grade over achieving SOBs behind that blog..
2.) I licked PBS shoelaces and I am a thankless bastard : Since we are calling a spade a spade here lets try to ascertain whose shoelaces I actually licked or whether I licked any shoelaces at all. I used to be a student researcher at Prof R.K. Sinhas lab at DCE and Prof P.B. Sharma was a patron of Prof. R. K. Sinha. Prof. R.K. Sinha as we all know is a leading researcher in our college and I was his student and Prof P.B. sharma had to patronize him to get into news papers that DCE is a world class hub of scientific research. So I never really licked his shoelaces in principle and I hope Prof Sinha will attest to that fact. So I have nothing to thank him for directly.. Whatever I have achieved in my life is because of the support I had with Prof. R.K. sinha and a host of other people such as Prof N.K Bhagat, Prof. Pragati Kumar, Mrs Rajeshwari Pandey and Prof Narendra Nath. At DCE Prof. R.K. Sinha gave me full access to the labs at DCE where I learnt the tricks of my trade. I am also thankful to him for buying all those expensive hard bound editions at the DCE library one of which was written by my current advisor and has given a direction to my life. I am also thankful to the Deptt of Applied Physics for being a second home to me when I was in DCE. So I am not a thankless bastard as is so eloquently put. Its just that I have different set of people to thank to
3.) My personal Credibility
Ohk now this one really hurts. Just because I know Sh. n.K bhagat who happens to be on the other side of the debate means that my opinions are influenced by him??
read this email i wrote about a year ago when DTU was announced
This was wayy before there was a formal student or faculty protest. I wrote this email independently and my opinions are independent of any influence by anybody. There are other movements out their by alumini which are garnering support and petition requests against DTU. Whatever reasons they have I couldnt care less. Neither I am aligned with the facebook movement. I am sympathetic to the cause of those who care to speak against DTU. The reason why I am against DTU are explained in the next point
4.) The reasons and rationale behind me being anti-DTU
a.) his blueprint of converting DCE to DTU was around even when I was there. However the motivation behind it was misplaced. Autonomy was always the motivation of the DCEites. But not at this price. For example there are 6 student teams involved in various projects and certain good amount of money is now being disbursed to them. What is the basis of this disbursement? are their performances reviewed? why the fake articles in news papers that teams won the competition whereas the best they do is win some best effort award. Do these kids actually build the circuits that go into these projects or 'assemble' them using evaluation boards?? who answers these questions?? when DCE was around there was some accountability.. now there is none..
b.) what about the famed bio-diesel project?? has even a single drop ever been produced?? the research here in US and europe on biodiesel has shifted from agricultural base to recycling frying oil for producing bio-diesel to make it a carbon neutral fuel. has our principal ever bothered to make those critical adjustments.. Biodiesel is no longer a subject of research in the west.. high school kids make it in their home here?? what is that humongous infrastructure in DCE attempting to do??
c.) The arbitrary manner in which faculty will now be recruited.. do you think it will improve DCE?? Hell no.. People from IITs with sub par masters academic record or below par publication track at PhD level will be hired as faculty and in fact are being hired.That is my beef.. this is not what DTU needs. increase the seats then hire sub par faculty to show DTU works whereas it is rotting internally
d.) I would have been okay with this change had a student referendum been held and all stakeholders, such as students, parents and alumini been involved, and online poll taken and then the decision were to be taken democratically. but rather it was taken arbitrarily. And arbitrarily how?? well known academicians of indian origin within and outside india were sent the blue-print of DTU and their comments sought. A few of those acadmicians happen to run in the same community as I belong to. They asked me, why is this guy trying to put DCE (ur school) against IIT to which I told them well he is a megalomaniac with an extreme messiah complex. Since DCE cant be converted into IIT he wants to position a new brand (brand DTU ) against IIT. A solid marketing plan, however with one fatal flaw (see the next comment)
e.)The motivation behind converting DCE to DTU was to introduce new courses and hire new faculty at a rapid rate. However reading behind those lines, one needs to ask the following questions---> are these courses even needed?? who needs geophysics in India?? or Engineering Physics when there are 100 s of IIT grads thronging the markets in these areas. Whats needed are expert telecommunications engineers, electronic materials and device engineers, Engineers specializing in renewable energy, A specialized program in energy policy wont hurt either, how about engineering ethics?? or scientific ethics (courses introduced in these directions would be positive). This misguided zeal of positioning brand DTU against brand IIT jeopardizes the future of 1000s of DTU students when they come out in the job market in 2013. They pay 50k and with their degrees from unknown DTU they are expected to compete against the strong alumini network of IITs. Do you seriously believe that all alumini back the DTU change?? Putting so many lives and futures at jeopardy in itself is an act of moral corruption in my eyes and In fact the reason why I am so outspoken. PBS has effectively drowned all these voices of dissent saying that these are all people with agenda against me. But sir please, I invite you in person to answer these questions.. You say you arent corrupt but placing the lives of 100s of student at stake without them even knowing, Isnt it an act of moral corruption?? as you lick the hoes of Sh vinod dham and take personal phone calls from Sh Raj soin, you have a moral obligation to answer these comments as well. And this is not like the time when parents ambushed you. I am putting my comments online on the world wide web under my name with my credibility on the line. So stop saying that I have an agenda or hiding behind some brain washed 20 year olds.., lets have a constructive debate one academic to another. And of course you have the choice to say that I am not worthy enough to answer to but well refer to my first comment.. time and history will tell who Is worth and who is not.
5.) facts vs fiction vs counter facts---->
MYTH: No permission from the DU to convert a Central Govt Institute into a State University.
FACT: DCE was always a State Govt Institute "affiliated" to DU. There is no permission required by law to seek consent of a affiliating University.
This is true.. NO permission from DU was required. But what about other stakeholders. Alumini, parents, children. Surely if the plan to form DTU was around for such a long time, a all party consensus or a referendum or debate could have been done before a change was put into effect. why this pomp and show of involving parents as an after effect when all you want is to tell them that whats done is done. control your kids or else..
MYTH: a DCE degree which had a value, now sold to local polytechnic institutes under DTU!!!!
FACT: DTU is a non-affiliating University. It cannot give affiliation to outside institutes. THERE IS NO AFFILIATION PLANNED NOR APPROVED.
Okay no affiliation is planned but would it not take a simple amendment in the DTU act 2 years from now to grant such a status. HOw can the owners of this blogspot operation claim that something like this will not happen five years from now when DTU kids are actually on the chopping block. and lets talk about distance learning and online education.. what about that one?? with all the EDUSAT infrastructure in place isnt that going to happen. so instead of giving BE exams people withmoney can pay sit at home and get DTU degrees (which actually will be DTU (formerly DCE degree) how can alumni sit idle and not voice their concerns about this??
MYTH: CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION ...
FACT: Not a single financial irregularity has been reported/found in the last 20 years!! It's a government institute where independent audit is done every year! Just writing in CAPITAL does not make any case.
See my assertion about moral corruption and how this harms kids who will graduate in 2013. and the moral corruption on the part of owners of the savedceisamyth blogspot operation. The fact that that website isnt even linked to the main DTU website reeks of shady nature of the entire operation and the veracity of their claims.
MYTH: BRAND DCE gone!!!! DTU blacklisted from all PSUs and many top notch companies!!!!!
FACT: Every single official document of DTU clearly mentions (formerly Delhi College of Engineering). This was added inspite of pressure to not have it there. It is there precisely to preserve the brand name. There is no official proof for blacklisting! It is all a hearsay spread by the Student leaders....Soon letters of support from companies will be published by PSU's!
PSUs hmm so mr PBs decides that hence forth all kids from DTU will go join a PSU. what about private companies and higher education abroad. I know a thing or two about how admission committees work (my roommate served in one of them) He categorically states that unless your application and transcripts bear the mark of a known institute your packets arent even opened. and this has been confirmed to me by high ranking university officials. So basically one man has decided the fate of 100s of DTU kids. Go work for PSUs. this is against the tenets of individualism that I strongly believe in
MYTH: The man behind this move is HE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED who has been granted an extension on his retirement.
FACT: We name him, Prof. P B Sharma, the man who made DCE what it is now through his selfless service of 20 years. Right from introducing a world class entrance exam (CEE) to moving the campus from Kashmere Gate to Present, promoting professional student chapters, funding research and innovation...this man has devoted his life to make DCE a world class institute.
Is DCE really a world class institute?? lets examine this claim in detail. what is a world class institution?? Let pick up the example of harvard university. Everyone would agree that harvard is a world class university. EVEN our shri PBS says so. lets look at their website. www.harvard.edu and lets compare it to www.dce.edu. front page of DTU website(note the domain name) has shri PBSs photo on it. harvard website has some news let about academic achievements and associated graphic and is updated everyday. DTU website also has some pics about an optical spectrum analyzer, some old ass optical setup and a solitary junk piece of a microscope. not exactly a world class institute.. but that cosmetic difference aside, lets delve deeper. harvard gives a start up fund of $200k to $1.2 Millions an an average to every new faculty to set up an experimental laboratory. Doe DCE have such funds? or will they offer it to incoming faculty members? hiring of PhD students world class institutes like harvard hire PhD students through their masters program or direct track PhD students. In India the system is that you get hired on the basis of your gate scores. Which is all fine and dandy but the process is archaic and involves students being interviewed by a board and then assigned or hired by a department. what happens to them after they enter a deptt is unknown.. do they have a choice of advisors?? that system is not transparent.. that was the case with DCE.. will it imrove with DTU?? number of experimentalists, fabrication work, collaborative PhD students I can draw a pretty elaborate list. Just because students of a institute are endorsed by a PSU or make fancy toys dont make an institute a world class one. DCE has languished at no 9 for so many years and DTU will langiush there for the next few years till real DTU kids come out and we will know the reality then
MYTH: 21!!!! TWENTY ONE cases of frauds against the man – who will not make his publications PUBLIC
FACT: Not cases, allegations. All of them were proven false....you people love RTI's right? Go and file an RTI seeking the result of inquiry committee for RGTU (M.P). NOTHING WAS PROVEN AND HE WAS ACQUITTED OF ALL CHARGES.
MYTH: P B Sharma is political and support Education Mafia.
FACT: P B Sharma got into controversy in Bhopal only for this: OPPOSING AND NOT BUDGING TO EDUCATION MAFIA! We are here for facts, and the fact is that because of his efforts M.P institutes saw policies implemented which prevented private colleges from taking money for admission, a Common Admission System was implemented by Prof Sharma which led to the entire controversy. THE VICTORY IS: THE SYSTEM IS STILL IN PLACE AND FINALLY LAW CAUGHT UP WITH THE MAFIA AND THEY HAVE BEEN DISMANTLED AND NEUTRALIZED.
6.) So why do this???
The reason why I started writing in the first place against DTU so openly was follows. When I first made some comments in the facebook against DTU, I was sent abusive chat by some of the community members in that group. They identified themselves as the members of save DTU community. When this whole faracass started, there were others like me too but obviously, they too were abused and chose not to pursue this further. With me, It became so bad that I had to quit facebook for a few months. And then I realized WTF. I just voiced my opinion and this is a regard they have for accomplished alumni I wonder how they might be threatening students on campus. I cam back online and I have written vociferously about the cause since..
lets examine the credibility of those who run this blogspot. They obviously are either current students or some alumini. And a greater section of these students are those who will get DCE degree so they cannot care less(it is to be noted that first bacth of DTU students was admitted only last year and they wont be in the job market till 2013) So it is comprised of mostly current DCE student who have the degrees that they need, and only care about references from PBS which tides them in the job market. If courts can question the locus standi of the petitioners, I question the standing of the blogspot operaters?? how can they claim to be the torchbearers of truth when they themselves have no standing or stake in this matter. they themselves are C-graded selfish SOB of human beings..
These are the final words I have to say to the matter. I will post this link to the comments section of the myth blog as well as on facebook. with that I am done.. I stand by what I said, I will denounce DTU with all my might but the thing is my might isnt even needed.. nobody knows what DTU is. Writing formerly DCE wont help. outside india people wont care less and Inside india well time will tell but yes DCE i Know and cherish no longer exists..
A special mention of a gentleman called Prashant Baveja, who has been the "only" alumni on fire in Save DCE group @ FB. Man, when we learnt something...इंसानियत से विश्वास उठ गया! (one of his batch-mates contacted us). This guy was nominated, helped to great great extent by our VC Sir, because of which he sits in that foreign university. And still, guess why he is sending hate messages there??? His Father and Dr N. K. Bhagat were classmates @ Kurukshetra University!!!!!!!!!! So guys, he ain't helping you or advice you as an alumni, he is just helping Bhagat Uncle! You suck Mr Baweja! You are as shameless and pathetic a person as there can be, AND WE HAD TO EXPOSE YOU! There are forces at work, that have nothing to do with DTU; all kinds of people with past grudges are using this opportunity to settle their score with this Individual, Prof. PBS, who has always gone completely out of the way to support and help students throughout his tenure (of course, he is less supportive of the current lot, who take a sick, sadistic pleasure in abusing him outside his residence!!).
to which I said this
i wasnt sure if i was going to write something in reply or not but here goes. true i was supported by the the now VC prof. PBS and I also know who the batchmate is who messaged you guys.
here is the thing though. I was one of the few guys and probably the only non topper who made it to the best optics program in the US on free ride (not just any foreign university as so stated). So yes if you all are propagators of facts then know this, not many people liked me for what I achieved and they always thought I never deserved it. To such bigots I have nothing to say
I know the decision on this agitation has been taken. I have had the opportunity to work with one of the greatest expert in my
area and I will have a standing in the global academic circles in the future. rest assured i will continue to denounce DTU and what it stands for with all the power and influence i have and ever will have. It will have nothing to do with my familys association with Sh. N.k. bhagat. i will do it for i denounce one mans greed and corruption in the strongest terms and the fruit that comes from it will be punished by me all I can. I know that man is corrupt for i worked closely with him and unfortunately that singular fact itself takes away my credibility. you talk about instances of corruption has ever a single drop of biodiesel be produced? all these assembled vehicles which go to competitions abroad do they even run? some best effort trophy won cause you were the only team from a third world country funded by money which comes from unscrupulous means hardly justifies itself as an excellence. even though i was closely associated with the principle i never got a single penny to present my work at any conference ( i attended three as an undergrad ) and the people with fake toys got all the money so yes i am bitter that such a man now has unsurmountable power over our esteemed institution. For me that man killed the DCE i so cherished and I will voice this sentiment till long after he is gone and everyone else associated with this agitation.
to which they said this.. (after three months mind you... It saddens me that this the intellectual extent of people backing DTU
Take 3: Prashant Baveja, Agitated Lier on Fire!
Yes Baveja Sir...let't talk. Sorry to keep you waiting...so where were we?
Thanks for accepting that you are a thankless maniac....when you accepted you were out of the way helped by PBS.
Good for you, Non Topper and still doing good. We are surprised you even passed dude :)
You will have a standing in Global Academic Circles in future: Hmn, you will not be able to achieve even the Shoelace of Prof PBS, whose shoes you were licking sometime ago. If you really want to know who is PBS, ask Prof. Agarwal....maybe he can open your eyes! (when was the last eye-test you did?)
You will have no power to do anything ever Baveja. All you can do is log on to facebook and spread lies and instigate innocent students, when you are not sending abusive message to us. And yeah, you will also dutifully do all that Bhagat Uncle tells you to do!!! BUZZZZ OFF.
Just how long have you been @ Rochester? You scumbag, you already declare your own country Third World? Your and your entire generation of scumbags originated here....Have some respect. We remain Third World because of Third Class citizens like you. Anyways, this is not a debate on National Pride.
I wish we could tell who we are Mr Baveja....and I assure you, you will be seen running to the Super-mart to fetch a bag of Adult Diapers if you knew. We are a strong group of Alumni's, much much senior than you and so well placed that you cannot even imagine, Prashant Sir. But then, we know you are sick....and we don't go around chasing someone because we did not get any funding to attend conferences during our college days!
Last but not the least, we feel it is high time people at Nonlinear Fiber Optics Group know you better. It will be done, we assure you.
this can be followed in detail here ---->
now that we have the facts in order, lets step by step deconstruct my motivations against DTU, what I am trying to say, and what motivates me to say so.. That is why the name of this post is lets call a spade a spade
1.) My academic credibility. SO first of all I am told I cannot even achieve the shoelace of what Prof. P.B. Sharma has achieved. Lets have a look at my shoelaces so as to speak.. I passed my undergrad from Delhi College of Engineering with 77% marks in aggregate (To the academic underachievers running that blogspot, that is first class with distinction). Based on my academic record I got into direct track PhD program at The Institute of Optics, University of Rochester where I completed my masters in optics with a GPA of 3.5/4.0 and have since been a part of Nonlinear Fiber Optics Group. I have Published 3 papers in Top Ten Journals of my area and 4 th is in the peer review process. They are all first author papers and my list of publications can be accessed here . I have given three contributed talks at well respected conferences in my area. On the academic extra-curricular front, I have received two separate travel grants from SPIE, 2006 SPIE student scholarship for outstanding future contribution to Optics and Photonics and 2010 guest scholarship from Swedish Institute for conducting doctoral studies in Sweden. And that is just the jist of it. I am currently 25 going on 26 and I will finish my Doctoral studies sometime next year. So as far as comparing shoelaces go, as they say here in america "Bring it on Bitches". I hope this explains who I am. I really dont need to go to my advisor to know who PBS is and I certainly need the owner of that blog to grow a pair and tell it to the world who they are and lets have their academic achievements on the table. For If I am B grade product of DCE, I would wanna know all the A grade over achieving SOBs behind that blog..
2.) I licked PBS shoelaces and I am a thankless bastard : Since we are calling a spade a spade here lets try to ascertain whose shoelaces I actually licked or whether I licked any shoelaces at all. I used to be a student researcher at Prof R.K. Sinhas lab at DCE and Prof P.B. Sharma was a patron of Prof. R. K. Sinha. Prof. R.K. Sinha as we all know is a leading researcher in our college and I was his student and Prof P.B. sharma had to patronize him to get into news papers that DCE is a world class hub of scientific research. So I never really licked his shoelaces in principle and I hope Prof Sinha will attest to that fact. So I have nothing to thank him for directly.. Whatever I have achieved in my life is because of the support I had with Prof. R.K. sinha and a host of other people such as Prof N.K Bhagat, Prof. Pragati Kumar, Mrs Rajeshwari Pandey and Prof Narendra Nath. At DCE Prof. R.K. Sinha gave me full access to the labs at DCE where I learnt the tricks of my trade. I am also thankful to him for buying all those expensive hard bound editions at the DCE library one of which was written by my current advisor and has given a direction to my life. I am also thankful to the Deptt of Applied Physics for being a second home to me when I was in DCE. So I am not a thankless bastard as is so eloquently put. Its just that I have different set of people to thank to
3.) My personal Credibility
Ohk now this one really hurts. Just because I know Sh. n.K bhagat who happens to be on the other side of the debate means that my opinions are influenced by him??
read this email i wrote about a year ago when DTU was announced
Prashant Baveja to presidentofind.
show details 7/25/09
Hon’ble President of India
I have no introduction. I am a nobody. I am amongst many young people today who still have to leave India in the quest of their intellectual pursuits. I am also an alumnus of Delhi college of engineering. The recent announcement that has been made to convert DCE to Delhi Technological University (DTU). To be very honest, this decision has come as a shock to me. It is clearly a cheap attempt by the person currently at the helm of the affairs to elongate his tenure and also make a boat load of money by offering a boatload of private college recognition under the aegis of DTU. What he does not understand that " Golden egg laying goose is not slaughtered for immediate returns" and yet this is what precisely he is doing. Delhi College of Engineering has a name and a brand in US. In top PhD/masters/MBA programs in US dominated by IITians, if you are likely to find a non IITian, he/she will be a DCEite. This reality will change very quickly once this change is implemented and we will be left defending our degrees.
Respected mam, I dont know If you will ever end up reading this mail. It is not even important. The more important thing is that our precious DCE be saved from this unending abyss.
regards
a concerned DCE alumnus who never knew what was happening
This was wayy before there was a formal student or faculty protest. I wrote this email independently and my opinions are independent of any influence by anybody. There are other movements out their by alumini which are garnering support and petition requests against DTU. Whatever reasons they have I couldnt care less. Neither I am aligned with the facebook movement. I am sympathetic to the cause of those who care to speak against DTU. The reason why I am against DTU are explained in the next point
4.) The reasons and rationale behind me being anti-DTU
a.) his blueprint of converting DCE to DTU was around even when I was there. However the motivation behind it was misplaced. Autonomy was always the motivation of the DCEites. But not at this price. For example there are 6 student teams involved in various projects and certain good amount of money is now being disbursed to them. What is the basis of this disbursement? are their performances reviewed? why the fake articles in news papers that teams won the competition whereas the best they do is win some best effort award. Do these kids actually build the circuits that go into these projects or 'assemble' them using evaluation boards?? who answers these questions?? when DCE was around there was some accountability.. now there is none..
b.) what about the famed bio-diesel project?? has even a single drop ever been produced?? the research here in US and europe on biodiesel has shifted from agricultural base to recycling frying oil for producing bio-diesel to make it a carbon neutral fuel. has our principal ever bothered to make those critical adjustments.. Biodiesel is no longer a subject of research in the west.. high school kids make it in their home here?? what is that humongous infrastructure in DCE attempting to do??
c.) The arbitrary manner in which faculty will now be recruited.. do you think it will improve DCE?? Hell no.. People from IITs with sub par masters academic record or below par publication track at PhD level will be hired as faculty and in fact are being hired.That is my beef.. this is not what DTU needs. increase the seats then hire sub par faculty to show DTU works whereas it is rotting internally
d.) I would have been okay with this change had a student referendum been held and all stakeholders, such as students, parents and alumini been involved, and online poll taken and then the decision were to be taken democratically. but rather it was taken arbitrarily. And arbitrarily how?? well known academicians of indian origin within and outside india were sent the blue-print of DTU and their comments sought. A few of those acadmicians happen to run in the same community as I belong to. They asked me, why is this guy trying to put DCE (ur school) against IIT to which I told them well he is a megalomaniac with an extreme messiah complex. Since DCE cant be converted into IIT he wants to position a new brand (brand DTU ) against IIT. A solid marketing plan, however with one fatal flaw (see the next comment)
e.)The motivation behind converting DCE to DTU was to introduce new courses and hire new faculty at a rapid rate. However reading behind those lines, one needs to ask the following questions---> are these courses even needed?? who needs geophysics in India?? or Engineering Physics when there are 100 s of IIT grads thronging the markets in these areas. Whats needed are expert telecommunications engineers, electronic materials and device engineers, Engineers specializing in renewable energy, A specialized program in energy policy wont hurt either, how about engineering ethics?? or scientific ethics (courses introduced in these directions would be positive). This misguided zeal of positioning brand DTU against brand IIT jeopardizes the future of 1000s of DTU students when they come out in the job market in 2013. They pay 50k and with their degrees from unknown DTU they are expected to compete against the strong alumini network of IITs. Do you seriously believe that all alumini back the DTU change?? Putting so many lives and futures at jeopardy in itself is an act of moral corruption in my eyes and In fact the reason why I am so outspoken. PBS has effectively drowned all these voices of dissent saying that these are all people with agenda against me. But sir please, I invite you in person to answer these questions.. You say you arent corrupt but placing the lives of 100s of student at stake without them even knowing, Isnt it an act of moral corruption?? as you lick the hoes of Sh vinod dham and take personal phone calls from Sh Raj soin, you have a moral obligation to answer these comments as well. And this is not like the time when parents ambushed you. I am putting my comments online on the world wide web under my name with my credibility on the line. So stop saying that I have an agenda or hiding behind some brain washed 20 year olds.., lets have a constructive debate one academic to another. And of course you have the choice to say that I am not worthy enough to answer to but well refer to my first comment.. time and history will tell who Is worth and who is not.
5.) facts vs fiction vs counter facts---->
MYTH: No permission from the DU to convert a Central Govt Institute into a State University.
FACT: DCE was always a State Govt Institute "affiliated" to DU. There is no permission required by law to seek consent of a affiliating University.
This is true.. NO permission from DU was required. But what about other stakeholders. Alumini, parents, children. Surely if the plan to form DTU was around for such a long time, a all party consensus or a referendum or debate could have been done before a change was put into effect. why this pomp and show of involving parents as an after effect when all you want is to tell them that whats done is done. control your kids or else..
MYTH: a DCE degree which had a value, now sold to local polytechnic institutes under DTU!!!!
FACT: DTU is a non-affiliating University. It cannot give affiliation to outside institutes. THERE IS NO AFFILIATION PLANNED NOR APPROVED.
Okay no affiliation is planned but would it not take a simple amendment in the DTU act 2 years from now to grant such a status. HOw can the owners of this blogspot operation claim that something like this will not happen five years from now when DTU kids are actually on the chopping block. and lets talk about distance learning and online education.. what about that one?? with all the EDUSAT infrastructure in place isnt that going to happen. so instead of giving BE exams people withmoney can pay sit at home and get DTU degrees (which actually will be DTU (formerly DCE degree) how can alumni sit idle and not voice their concerns about this??
MYTH: CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION ...
FACT: Not a single financial irregularity has been reported/found in the last 20 years!! It's a government institute where independent audit is done every year! Just writing in CAPITAL does not make any case.
See my assertion about moral corruption and how this harms kids who will graduate in 2013. and the moral corruption on the part of owners of the savedceisamyth blogspot operation. The fact that that website isnt even linked to the main DTU website reeks of shady nature of the entire operation and the veracity of their claims.
MYTH: BRAND DCE gone!!!! DTU blacklisted from all PSUs and many top notch companies!!!!!
FACT: Every single official document of DTU clearly mentions (formerly Delhi College of Engineering). This was added inspite of pressure to not have it there. It is there precisely to preserve the brand name. There is no official proof for blacklisting! It is all a hearsay spread by the Student leaders....Soon letters of support from companies will be published by PSU's!
PSUs hmm so mr PBs decides that hence forth all kids from DTU will go join a PSU. what about private companies and higher education abroad. I know a thing or two about how admission committees work (my roommate served in one of them) He categorically states that unless your application and transcripts bear the mark of a known institute your packets arent even opened. and this has been confirmed to me by high ranking university officials. So basically one man has decided the fate of 100s of DTU kids. Go work for PSUs. this is against the tenets of individualism that I strongly believe in
MYTH: The man behind this move is HE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED who has been granted an extension on his retirement.
FACT: We name him, Prof. P B Sharma, the man who made DCE what it is now through his selfless service of 20 years. Right from introducing a world class entrance exam (CEE) to moving the campus from Kashmere Gate to Present, promoting professional student chapters, funding research and innovation...this man has devoted his life to make DCE a world class institute.
Is DCE really a world class institute?? lets examine this claim in detail. what is a world class institution?? Let pick up the example of harvard university. Everyone would agree that harvard is a world class university. EVEN our shri PBS says so. lets look at their website. www.harvard.edu and lets compare it to www.dce.edu. front page of DTU website(note the domain name) has shri PBSs photo on it. harvard website has some news let about academic achievements and associated graphic and is updated everyday. DTU website also has some pics about an optical spectrum analyzer, some old ass optical setup and a solitary junk piece of a microscope. not exactly a world class institute.. but that cosmetic difference aside, lets delve deeper. harvard gives a start up fund of $200k to $1.2 Millions an an average to every new faculty to set up an experimental laboratory. Doe DCE have such funds? or will they offer it to incoming faculty members? hiring of PhD students world class institutes like harvard hire PhD students through their masters program or direct track PhD students. In India the system is that you get hired on the basis of your gate scores. Which is all fine and dandy but the process is archaic and involves students being interviewed by a board and then assigned or hired by a department. what happens to them after they enter a deptt is unknown.. do they have a choice of advisors?? that system is not transparent.. that was the case with DCE.. will it imrove with DTU?? number of experimentalists, fabrication work, collaborative PhD students I can draw a pretty elaborate list. Just because students of a institute are endorsed by a PSU or make fancy toys dont make an institute a world class one. DCE has languished at no 9 for so many years and DTU will langiush there for the next few years till real DTU kids come out and we will know the reality then
MYTH: 21!!!! TWENTY ONE cases of frauds against the man – who will not make his publications PUBLIC
FACT: Not cases, allegations. All of them were proven false....you people love RTI's right? Go and file an RTI seeking the result of inquiry committee for RGTU (M.P). NOTHING WAS PROVEN AND HE WAS ACQUITTED OF ALL CHARGES.
MYTH: P B Sharma is political and support Education Mafia.
FACT: P B Sharma got into controversy in Bhopal only for this: OPPOSING AND NOT BUDGING TO EDUCATION MAFIA! We are here for facts, and the fact is that because of his efforts M.P institutes saw policies implemented which prevented private colleges from taking money for admission, a Common Admission System was implemented by Prof Sharma which led to the entire controversy. THE VICTORY IS: THE SYSTEM IS STILL IN PLACE AND FINALLY LAW CAUGHT UP WITH THE MAFIA AND THEY HAVE BEEN DISMANTLED AND NEUTRALIZED.
6.) So why do this???
The reason why I started writing in the first place against DTU so openly was follows. When I first made some comments in the facebook against DTU, I was sent abusive chat by some of the community members in that group. They identified themselves as the members of save DTU community. When this whole faracass started, there were others like me too but obviously, they too were abused and chose not to pursue this further. With me, It became so bad that I had to quit facebook for a few months. And then I realized WTF. I just voiced my opinion and this is a regard they have for accomplished alumni I wonder how they might be threatening students on campus. I cam back online and I have written vociferously about the cause since..
lets examine the credibility of those who run this blogspot. They obviously are either current students or some alumini. And a greater section of these students are those who will get DCE degree so they cannot care less(it is to be noted that first bacth of DTU students was admitted only last year and they wont be in the job market till 2013) So it is comprised of mostly current DCE student who have the degrees that they need, and only care about references from PBS which tides them in the job market. If courts can question the locus standi of the petitioners, I question the standing of the blogspot operaters?? how can they claim to be the torchbearers of truth when they themselves have no standing or stake in this matter. they themselves are C-graded selfish SOB of human beings..
These are the final words I have to say to the matter. I will post this link to the comments section of the myth blog as well as on facebook. with that I am done.. I stand by what I said, I will denounce DTU with all my might but the thing is my might isnt even needed.. nobody knows what DTU is. Writing formerly DCE wont help. outside india people wont care less and Inside india well time will tell but yes DCE i Know and cherish no longer exists..
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